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  2. Robert's Rules of Order specifies that the VP instantly and automatically becomes P upon the sitting president's vacating the office. *** If your VP cannot serve as P, then you next step is to hold a by-election (an in-between election) to fill the vacancy. The rule is, "The body who did the original electing of a given office is the body who is authorized to fill vacancies in that given office."
  3. Your question is not well-formed. -- It is improper to "accept minutes" under the preferred method of Robert's Rules of Order. **** It is like asking, "Who should run to first base if the goalie makes a touchdown." -- There is no "who" in such a question, as the action itself is irregular.
  4. The rule is, an assembly should not be forced to entertain the identical motion, or nearly-identical motion, twice in the same session. But if they do, then that is the choice of the assembly. No one raised a timely point of order. -- So, no one cared if the identical concept was re-entertained. *** You say the previous motion failed, but the same motion but with a smaller dollar total was adopted. Okay. So, the adopted motions stands.
  5. #4 and #5 and #6 are poor decisions, a waste of time. You don't need a committee for #4, and there isn't any clarification necessary for #5. And #6 isn't true, so it should not be the choice, since no choosing is necessary. The committee should report out that there are two factions to satisfy, and the committee cannot choose between factions. So, two kinds of motions are recommended, with the parent assembly taking the brunt of the force with the assembly's own choice between the two conflicting motions. The committee need not commit its own emotional risks, political risks, etc., to any single motion. There is no need to "take sides". *** Like a chef, offer two courses. Let the patrons who dine and who pay the check cherry pick the meal to chew on. The chef doesn't care which meal is the favorite, only that each meal is ready-to-eat.
  6. I've noticed that as well, and we may be taking measures to try controlling the spam more tightly. In the meantime, if you see any spam that's been up for a while, just click the "Report post" link and submit to inform the moderator(s).
  7. Thanks for pointing that out. Also, apparently they are not visible on the mobile-device layout. Basically, it seems they are for entertainment purposes only.
  8. Unless your bylaws specifically provide otherwise, the first vice president automatically becomes president when there's a vacancy in that position.
  9. President of nonprofit member organization (board term 7/1/16 - 6/30/18) resigned March 2017. Bylaws do not state how to replace president mid-term. Current VPs have declined the position. Do we solicit nominations and put forth a ballot to the membership?
  10. Dan, thanks for that response! Perhaps, then there is a seventh option: the committee recommends both and they are considered in order, as per the language you cited?
  11. Yesterday
  12. The body that is meeting approves the minutes.
  13. Are you asking how the minutes are approved? If so see RONR pp. 473-475. If that wasn't your question can you please clarify?
  14. Who accepts the minute's as read?
  15. The question reminds me of a book, Who Moved My Cheese?
  16. It may be worth mentioning that guests cannot see the signatures.
  17. At the time the second motion was made, a point of order could have been raised. It is too late to raise a point of order now. The adopted motion could be rescinded or amended.
  18. At our meeting, under "old business" a member proposed giving $1800 dollars to a struggling non profit in our area. This motion was unanimously voted down as it was felt the non profit did noting to help itself, it was becoming dependent on our organization. Much later in the meeting, the motion was brought up again, for a lessor amount of $700. Motion passed. My question is whether this motion was proper, as a similar motion had already been defeated. Redundant motions are not covered in our bylaws.
  19. This topic has been languishing for over a month, so just for the fun of it I'll suggest that there may be a problem with the first three suggested options. As I understand them, in each instance two different bylaw amendments will be proposed, with notice being given for each, and that while the first one of these two to be moved is pending a motion will be made to substitute the other one for it. If so, it appears that these options may run afoul of what is said on page 593, line 35 to page 594, line 10, as to the procedure to be followed in such instances.
  20. I suppose you could spend all your days chasing Spammers away, but there sure are a lot of them showing up very recently. Have I got a deal for you on bitcoins!!!! Yeah, right.
  21. Last week
  22. I seem to agree with Mr. Goldsworthy.
  23. RONR fails to suggest any "qualification for office" for membership on a Minutes Approval Committee. Since there is no prohibition, then I would opine that a Secretary may be so appointed. *** But I see it as almost useless, as the secretary already has provided as much information as the Secretary can. -- I think a Secretary can only provide redundant information, and not new, improved information. You want a party of people to "proof" the minutes. The original author is in the poorest position to scrutinize, criticize, blue-pencil, etc., his own document.
  24. Is it appropriate or permissible for the Secretary to be a member of the minutes approval Committee? If prohibited, please provide a citation.
  25. Use the motion "Rescind or Amend Something Previously Adopted"; this motion requires a 2/3 vote or a majority if notice is given or a majority of the entire membership.
  26. Also, if his intent is to move to amend the bylaws make sure any notice requirements are being followed (check the section in the bylaws regarding their amendment for those details).
  27. Q. What is an "address"? Is this some kind of speech? Is it some kind of committee report or officer report?
  28. Here is what the book has to say on this subject (RONR, page 393): When the VP begins his speech I would make a Request For Information, requesting that the presiding officer inquire if the speaker is prepared to conclude his remarks with a motion or not. If the answer is yes, then nothing further need be done. I would have the opportunity to counter his arguments in debate. If the answer is no, then I would probably Raise a Point Of Order requesting that the presiding officer suppress his speech.
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