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  2. I am of the opposite opinion. If a person serves even one day in the office of president, then, no matter how this person vacates the office of president, this person is, by definition, a "past president". There is no getting around that. -- Death, resignation, expulsion, natural exhaustion of the defined term-of-office -- it makes no difference if this party is alive or dead. This person is a past president, and, if the timing is right, the immediate past president. *** >> We do have a Past President position. Look to your own rules as to what to do when no one is capable of serving in a position where there exactly and only one party who is qualified for such an office.
  3. President resigned 7 weeks before term was up. I know that RONR does not include a Past President position, but Honorary President does exist. We do have a Past President position. Because the President resigned, there is in-effect no President to move to the Past President role is my opinion. A President would normally just fulfill his term and move into the Past President position once a new President was elected, by virtue of him not running for re-election or if the max number of terms had been filled. I would like some opinions on this. Thanks!!
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  5. If the bylaws grant him that power, yes.
  6. Thank you very much for your input! I truly appreciate it!
  7. It seems we're on a slippy slope Mr. Mervosh. Born in Finleyville. Thank you. Harper
  8. By himself? If the board decision was an ordinary act of the board (like a majority vote on some policy), then no individual may rescind or countermand the decision of a board.
  9. mr

    If the member who is questioning the amendment is asking for the chair's opinion, then use Parliamentary Inquiry, and get the chair's opinion. If the member who is questioning the amendment is pointing out a violation of a parliamentary rule, then use Point of Order, and compel the chair to issue a ruling on the Point of Order, and possbily lead to an Appeal from the Decision of the Chair. Q. What does the inquiring member wish? -- An opinion? A ruling?
  10. Yes, you would be correct, most likely. Look at it this way: Q. Did both bodies, general membership plus Executive Board, both invoke the bylaws' method of amendment to insert new House Rules? A. No. Therefore, the House Rules cannot be part of the bylaws. The printed document must be a convenient compilation of two sets of rules, as a courtesy to new members, or a courtesy to general readers.
  11. It wouldn't hurt to carefully read Section 59 of RONR. Even though your meeting may not be a convention of delegates, a lot what's in that section may be useful for a large annual meeting such as yours (and ones smaller than yours as well). Might I also suggest you register as a member here (preferably under your real name but that's not required)? Others may be willing to share things via the messaging system here and they cannot do that as long as you remain a guest.
  12. From FAQ#10 - As a consequence, the answers to any questions concerning the correct use of proxies, the extent of the power conferred by a proxy, the duration, revocability, or transferability of proxies, and so forth, must be found in the provisions of the law or bylaws which require or authorize their use. [RONR (11th ed.), pp. 428-29.] Now, it's clear. We just can't help.
  13. I probably would, although I likely wouldn't include "with a complaint." I certainly wouldn't include the contents of the complaint, though.
  14. Thank you, sir. Very clear. Here's our bylaw. We are already counting proxies toward a future quorum from the originally scheduled meeting which would appear to be putting the cart before the horse. A proxy form shall be a signed statement from an absent member delivered to the Secretary prior to the opening of a general meeting and designating a Regular member or the Chairperson of the meeting as his or her proxy. No member shall cast more than two proxy votes, except the Chairperson of the meeting, for whom there is no limitation…. The Secretary shall determine the validity of all proxy forms prior to the opening of the meeting. Harper
  15. What is meant by "over rule"? More details may be helpful.
  16. Absentee voting is prohibited unless authorized in the bylaws.
  17. The organizers for the Annual Meeting for a non-profit organization have requested that the meeting be live streamed via the organizations Facebook page which is limited to members. The question presented was : If a member participates in the live stream, are they eligible to participate in the meeting and vote. The bylaws state as follows: Article III - Meetings, Sec 1E Each member certified by the Association who is in good standing shall be eligible to cast one vote on all issues brought to a vote. All issues brought to vote shall be decided by a majority vote unless a different vote is required by Robert's Rules of Order Newly revised or these Bylaws. Proxy voting shall not be allowed at any meetings of the Association.
  18. I think you need to read FAQ #10 again.
  19. Your adjourned meeting is part of the same session, but the quorum requirement must be met at every meeting of that session. The further you bend backward to accommodate members who won't show up, the fewer will show up. Then your organization will be run by an ever-shrinking group, alienating more members and increasing the rate of non-participation. It's a death spiral.
  20. Can a President of an organization over rule a board decision?
  21. Would you not include something to the effect of "By unanimous consent, guest Mona Lott was permitted to address the board with a complaint"?
  22. No.
  23. Several members showed up to observe our last board meeting. They were not on the agenda to speak but at one point our president did give them the opportunity to do so. One of these members had a complaint with the board and asked that this complaint be reflected in the minutes. Should this be recorded?
  24. mr

    It could be either. A parliamentary inquiry is a question about parliamentary procedure, while a Point of Order is a statement that a rule has been violated, which forces the chair to rule on the point. So a member might ask, "Mr. Chairman, is the member's amendment germane to the resolution?" This would be in the nature of a parliamentary inquiry. On the other hand, the member might say, "Point of Order! The member's amendment is not germane to the resolution." This would be in the nature of a Point of Order.
  25. So far as RONR is concerned, the only members who count toward the quorum are members who are actually present. If your organization's rules provide otherwise, it is up to your organization to interpret those rules.
  26. I thank you all for your insight into this issue. While researching the problem, it has come to my attention that several "House Rules" were, in fact, added by "Executive Board Decision", and others were adopted by the membership by a simple majority vote at a regular meeting. Our Bylaws state: <Begin Excerpt> AMMENDMENTS: These By-Laws or any part thereof maybe amended by presenting in writing and said resolution to be read at the next two (2) meetings and notices thereof sent to all of the membership and upon the third reading, to pass must have two-thirds vote of all members present. <End Excerpt> Would I be correct in interpreting this to mean that our "House Rules", therefore, can NOT be considered part of the Bylaws? Or is this interpretation of precedence incorrect?
  27. Thank you, gentlemen. Under our current rules (perhaps customs), the person carrying the proxy would transfer it to another person in attendance - including his own if he's leaving. We are very loose about handling proxies, but that's what I believe has been done. But the difference this time is that we're dealing with proxies at an adjourned meeting - at the beginning of the meeting. It greatly complicates matters. Thank you all the same. Harper
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