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George Mervosh

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  1. "It can be made only by a member who voted with the prevailing side. In other words, a reconsideration can be moved only by one who voted aye if the motion involved was adopted, or no if the motion was lost" RONR (11th ed.), p. 315 If "tonight" is a new board meeting, no one can make it, because it's too late to do so. "The making of this motion is subject to time limits, as follows: In a session of one day—such as an ordinary meeting of a club or a one-day convention—the motion to Reconsider can be made only on the same day the vote to be reconsidered was taken." RONR (11th ed.), p. 316
  2. The proper procedure is "If only one person is nominated and the bylaws do not require that a ballot vote be taken, the chair, after ensuring that, in fact, no members present wish to make further nominations, simply declares that the nominee is elected, thus effecting the election by unanimous consent or "acclamation."" RONR (11th ed.), p. 443
  3. You're dealing with self-inflicted wounds here. If you only put into the minutes what Robert's Rules says to put in the minutes your problems will miraculously dissapear. See p. 146ff in RONR In Brief, or for the big book version, RONR (11th ed.), p. 468ff Putting statements into the minutes is the first thing that needs to go, then your presiding officer is the second thing that needs to go. Someone who likes to type a lot can finish the rest.
  4. That's why I suggested he not second it in post #5 (his motives would be confusing), he should just state it if he feels it urgently needs considered (which is certainly silently opining the motion should be considered) and take his chances on a point of order being raised. I'm not suggesting he routinely do this, in fact just the opposite. He should most likely announce there is no second and move on nearly every time.
  5. "A second merely implies that the seconder agrees that the motion should come before the meeting and not that he necessarily favors the motion." RONR (11th ed.), p. 36 - as Mr. Mt. already mentioned, As a pratical matter, if no second is forthcoming he can either state it without a second if he wants it before the meeting and take his chances on a point of order, or simply move on. His choice.
  6. No and how would you know? If it's in order at the time in the precedence of motions, it's in order.
  7. As Dan noted, it's not a legitimate use, but it is the effect of the motion. The 4th Edition specifically refers to it as the effect. "The Effect of making this motion is to enable members who have exhausted their right of debate on the main question, to speak again, as technically, the question before the assembly is different, while, as far as the subject of discussion is concerned, there is no difference caused by changing the question from adopting to rejecting the measure, because the merits of the main question are open to debate in either case."
  8. If a motion to amend, commit or postpone were made and before the assembly instead, would you object to a member speaking further on these motions if they exhausted their right to debate the main motion itself? RONR also notes, that a motion like postpone indefinitely, which will kill the main motion for the duration of the session “necessarily involves debate of the main question”, unlike the other debatable subsidiary motions. The difference with PI is the scope of what you can talk about, not that your right to debate it is continued.
  9. Fixed to add in what I really said before what you said I said
  10. My unauthoritative opinion is, when censure is not used as "punishment" it reverts back to essentially being an opinion of the assembly, and can made for any "offense", in or out of a meeting.....it's still a main motion and it remains amendable to strike censure and insert commend, etc., is debatable and requires a majority vote to adopt. RONR (11th ed.), p. 124-125
  11. No rule in RONR requires a member to leave the room due to some real or perceived conflict of interest.
  12. After what Weldon and I witnessed tonight, either of us would be hard pressed to disagree
  13. Yes, RONR is silent about it. Establish a committee of key personnel who were there and can create a proper record of what occurred, then have that approved by the assembly (if you meet regularly).
  14. It's wise to disabuse yourself of the notion that the number of voting members who must be present (a quorum) and the number of members who actually vote on a question are related. To use an extreme and impractical example: If there are 100 members in a room and that's enough for a quorum, 1-0 with 99 abstentions will adopt a motion requiring a majority vote or a 2/3 vote.
  15. The regular presiding officer. After you make your report, your job is done.
  16. I sure hope that definition shows up in the 11th....
  17. And your question concerning Robert's Rules is?
  18. RONR notes that most committees don't take minutes like a regular assembly does, it just keeps a brief memorandum.
  19. She can make a motion for the previous question (or call the question) if she has the floor. The motion is not debatable and requires a 2/3 vote to end debate. She cannot demand anything like she did.
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