jstackpo Posted July 9, 2013 at 12:55 AM Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 at 12:55 AM Situation: Motion MM adopted at a regular meeting. For unrelated reasons, an adjourned meeting is set for a week in the future, and the first meeting adjourns. During the week, a member on the prevailing side discovers that Motion MM was a bad idea and plans to move to reconsider motion MM at the adjourned meeting. There isn't time to get a notice out, the motion was controversial, and he doubts that an attempt to rescind Motion MM would garner a 2/3 vote. Hence his attempt to reconsider. It is proper to move reconsideration of MM at the adjourned meeting, taking place a full week after the original motion was adopted? To be sure, a "full week" is well beyond the normal time limits for moving reconsider; however... The adjourned meeting is a continuation of the same session as the original meeting (p. 93) and p. 316 states that a motion to reconsider can be "moved ... on the next succeeding day within the session on which a business meeting is held". The adjourned meeting is taking place on the "next succeeding day within the session" so the coast seems clear. Seems a bit dicey, however. But I can see no rule that disallows reconsider after an appreciable span of time, in the situation described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyl Kent Plampin Posted July 9, 2013 at 04:36 AM Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 at 04:36 AM Greetings:The adjourned meeting is a continuation of the same session as the original meeting (p. 93) and p. 316 states that a motion to reconsider can be "moved ... on the next succeeding day within the session on which a business meeting is held". The adjourned meeting is taking place on the "next succeeding day within the session" so the coast seems clear. Seems a bit dicey, however. But I can see no rule that disallows reconsider after an appreciable span of time, in the situation described.Sure looks like the motion can be reconsidered at the adjourned meeting. The motion to Fix the Time to Which to Adjourn must set an adjourned meeting before the next regular meeting (RONR 11 p.244 ll. 3-6), which I assume they did. The motion to Reconsider must be moved within the time limit, but its consideration can be taken up within the famous "quarterly time interval" (RONR 11 p 89-90) just like motions that are postponed (RONR 11 p. 183 ll. 7-14) or laid on the table (RONR 11 p. 214 ll. 19-28) must be taken up or else they fall to the ground. Did I get this right? Best regards,Randyl Kent Plampin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted July 9, 2013 at 09:49 AM Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 at 09:49 AM Situation: Motion MM adopted at a regular meeting. For unrelated reasons, an adjourned meeting is set for a week in the future, and the first meeting adjourns. During the week, a member on the prevailing side discovers that Motion MM was a bad idea and plans to move to reconsider motion MM at the adjourned meeting. There isn't time to get a notice out, the motion was controversial, and he doubts that an attempt to rescind Motion MM would garner a 2/3 vote. Hence his attempt to reconsider. It is proper to move reconsideration of MM at the adjourned meeting, taking place a full week after the original motion was adopted? To be sure, a "full week" is well beyond the normal time limits for moving reconsider; however... The adjourned meeting is a continuation of the same session as the original meeting (p. 93) and p. 316 states that a motion to reconsider can be "moved ... on the next succeeding day within the session on which a business meeting is held". The adjourned meeting is taking place on the "next succeeding day within the session" so the coast seems clear. Seems a bit dicey, however. But I can see no rule that disallows reconsider after an appreciable span of time, in the situation described. Yes, the motion to Reconsider may be made at the session's second meeting, even although that meeting is not held until a week after the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanh49 Posted July 22, 2013 at 09:32 PM Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 at 09:32 PM Yes, the motion to Reconsider may be made at the session's second meeting, even although that meeting is not held until a week after the first.I'm I correct in think that's true no matter when the second meeting of the session is held as long as it's before regular session? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted July 23, 2013 at 12:37 AM Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 at 12:37 AM Appears correct to me. The "quarterly" limit may play into this but it is too late in the day to think about hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted July 23, 2013 at 01:02 AM Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 at 01:02 AM Appears correct to me. The "quarterly" limit may play into this but it is too late in the day to think about hat. John it appears the quarterly time interval applies only to taking up the motion (p. 321). The making of it doesn't seem to apply to that rule, so to answer Alan's question, it will likely be in order since the adjourned meeting must take place before the next regular meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted July 23, 2013 at 02:43 AM Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 at 02:43 AM John it appears the quarterly time interval applies only to taking up the motion (p. 321). The making of it doesn't seem to apply to that rule, so to answer Alan's question, it will likely be in order since the adjourned meeting must take place before the next regular meeting. The limit of "more than a quarterly time interval" applies only to the interval between sessions, not within a single session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted July 23, 2013 at 09:24 AM Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 at 09:24 AM The limit of "more than a quarterly time interval" applies only to the interval between sessions, not within a single session. A careless mistake on my part. Thank you for the clarification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted July 23, 2013 at 11:19 AM Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 at 11:19 AM A careless mistake on my part. Thank you for the clarification! See, I told you it was too late in the day to think about such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted July 23, 2013 at 12:36 PM Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 at 12:36 PM See, I told you it was too late in the day to think about such things. Yeah, I need to leave postings past 9PM to SG and the once in a while Overnight Officer. SG's post leaves me wanting to ask other questions......but not at this hour either. Maybe a different thread, later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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