AiC212 Posted March 17, 2015 at 05:16 PM Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 05:16 PM Hello, I need some guidance as I cannot understand it myself from reading the information. I have 2 questions.1. If someone was brought up to fill a position and required a 2/3 vote for nomination, which they did not get, are they eligible to be brought up in the future for nomination? I do not know if it is relevant or not, but many voting members were not able to be present for the vote and are upset that they did not get to vote.2. When electing a pulpit committee, which is done by written vote by members listing names of 5-7 people, can the committee have 2 members from the same family, such as father and daughter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted March 17, 2015 at 05:22 PM Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 05:22 PM Hello, I need some guidance as I cannot understand it myself from reading the information. I have 2 questions.1. If someone was brought up to fill a position and required a 2/3 vote for nomination, which they did not get, are they eligible to be brought up in the future for nomination? I do not know if it is relevant or not, but many voting members were not able to be present for the vote and are upset that they did not get to vote.2. When electing a pulpit committee, which is done by written vote by members listing names of 5-7 people, can the committee have 2 members from the same family, such as father and daughter? 1) The 2/3 vote for nomination must be one of your church's rules, because it's not in RONR, however, no rule in RONR would prohibit them from being brought up for a vote in the future. 2) Yes. RONR contains no prohibition against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AiC212 Posted March 17, 2015 at 05:42 PM Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 05:42 PM Mr. Mervosh,Thank you so very much. I wish I had discovered this site sooner, would have saved myself a lot of stress and headaches...now saved in my favorites. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted March 17, 2015 at 06:56 PM Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 06:56 PM Mr./Ms. AiC212, We're glad you found us and welcome - keep raising questions. I hate to say it but Churches are, shall we say, a fruitful source of parliamentary interactions, some of which turn out to be proper, others not so much. We can help you tell which is which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:19 PM Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:19 PM I hate to say it but Churches are, shall we say, a fruitful source of parliamentary interactions, some of which turn out to be proper, others not so much. And, for some reason, small dog clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:46 PM Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 07:46 PM Big dogs, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AiC212 Posted March 17, 2015 at 10:28 PM Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 10:28 PM I appreciate everyone's input, church bylaws, especially ones that are extremely outdated (like in 40+ years) is one problem, but I can read and understand them. But when it states that we are to follow Robert's Rules, that's another story! If that is what I am to follow, then that what I will follow (with your help), as I am finding some interpret them to say what they want them to say. Thanks for all the knowledge you have shared and I am sure you will be hearing more from me. Something else that just came to mind, is our homebound members and snowbirds. They are upset that they did not get the opportunity to vote, as I feel they should have, since they are still active in their church membership. Might there be anything in the rules regarding this issue, that maybe I should bring up at the next meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted March 17, 2015 at 10:36 PM Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 at 10:36 PM Something else that just came to mind, is our homebound members and snowbirds. They are upset that they did not get the opportunity to vote, as I feel they should have, since they are still active in their church membership. Might there be anything in the rules regarding this issue, that maybe I should bring up at the next meeting. RONR prohibits absentee voting but some organizations permit it (you'll need to amend your bylaws). You might also consider allowing voting by proxy. Again, it's prohibited by RONR but your bylaws supersede ("override") RONR. Just make sure you dot all the tees and cross all the eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted March 18, 2015 at 01:32 AM Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 at 01:32 AM I appreciate everyone's input, ... But when it states that we are to follow Robert's Rules, that's another story! The "big book" -- RONR -- can be a bit intimidating; may I suggest RONRIB:"Roberts Rules of Order Newly Revised In Brief", Updated Second Edition (Da Capo Press, Perseus Books Group, 2011). It is a splendid summary of all the rules you will really need in all but the most exceptional situations. And only $7.50! You can read it in an evening. Get both RONRIB and RONR (scroll down) at this link. Or in your local bookstore. (You should be so lucky...) Maybe get a copy for your presiding officer, by whatever title he/she is known in the church context - Moderator, Deacon, or something else. And the Pastor, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 18, 2015 at 12:41 PM Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 at 12:41 PM You might also consider allowing voting by proxy. Again, it's prohibited by RONR but your bylaws supersede ("override") RONR. Ewwwwwww. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted March 18, 2015 at 12:57 PM Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 at 12:57 PM Ewwwwwww. Cat got your tongue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted March 18, 2015 at 03:00 PM Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 at 03:00 PM Cat got your tongue?Drank some sour milk, probably. Edited to add: Perhaps proxy-flavored sour milk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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