jstackpo Posted April 30, 2015 at 12:27 AM Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 at 12:27 AM A non-member of an association is elected president (or a professional presider is called in to preside over a sticky meeting). Presumably he can rule on points of order - that's part of a presider's job. But, in the event of an appeal, can he vote on whether "The ruling of the chair shall be sustained?" Putting it another way: Has the non-member presider become a sort of ex-officio member of the assembly, with full membership and voting rights? At least with respect to the normal presidential duties and responsibilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted April 30, 2015 at 01:16 AM Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 at 01:16 AM A non-member of an association is elected president (or a professional presider is called in to preside over a sticky meeting). Presumably he can rule on points of order - that's part of a presider's job. But, in the event of an appeal, can he vote on whether "The ruling of the chair shall be sustained?" Putting it another way: Has the non-member presider become a sort of ex-officio member of the assembly, with full membership and voting rights? At least with respect to the normal presidential duties and responsibilities? No, I don't think a non-member presiding officer can vote on an appeal, and the non-member presiding officer has certainly not "become a sort of ex-officio member of the assembly, with full membership and voting rights." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lages Posted April 30, 2015 at 01:27 AM Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 at 01:27 AM Even if the chair is a member, wouldn't he be expected to not vote on an appeal of his ruling - unless the vote is taken by ballot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted April 30, 2015 at 01:42 AM Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 at 01:42 AM Even if the chair is a member, wouldn't he be expected to not vote on an appeal of his ruling - unless the vote is taken by ballot? The chair can also vote if his vote will affect the result, as usual. "If the presiding officer is a member of the assembly, he can vote to create a tie and thus sustain his decision." (RONR, 11th ed., pg. 258) This also seems to clearly answer the original question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Basil Posted April 30, 2015 at 11:43 AM Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 at 11:43 AM See the answer you got to this question here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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