Guest cyan Posted August 17, 2015 at 01:25 AM Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 at 01:25 AM Hi - I submitted a bylaw proposal to change bylaws to recommended languagein Robert's Rules such that the parliamentary law (Robert's Rules) upgrades wheneverthere is a new edition, automatically. Conventions are every four years in August.This year 2015, 2019, 2023, 2027, 2031, 2035, 2039, 2043, 2047, 2051, 2055, 2059,etc. Q: Do the Robert's Rules editors ever plan on releasing a new edition on a yearother than the 10's / decades, (ie instead of 2020, you'd change it 2019? or instead of2030, you'd change it 2031)? What might I tell these backwards folks to move themfrom their irrational position? The lame rejection reason was no update to latest edition because :"by changing from the 10th edition to the current addition(sic), this could complicate the proceedings. If Robert's Rulesof Order issues a new edition shortly before a convention,the convention would be bound by this new edition which maynot be widely known" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted August 17, 2015 at 02:04 AM Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 at 02:04 AM Hi - I submitted a bylaw proposal to change bylaws to recommended languagein Robert's Rules such that the parliamentary law (Robert's Rules) upgrades wheneverthere is a new edition, automatically. I'm assuming that you used the language suggested in RONR for adopting it as a society's parliamentary authority which you can find here: http://www.robertsrules.com/authority.html Q: Do the Robert's Rules editors ever plan on releasing a new edition on a yearother than the 10's / decades, (ie instead of 2020, you'd change it 2019? or instead of2030, you'd change it 2031)? I can't speak for the authorship team, but it's my understanding that the Robert's Rules Association plan to release a new edition about every ten years. Since 1970, each edition has been released at the start of a new decade or the next year. There has never been one released the year before the start of a new decade. You can see when each edition was released here: http://www.robertsrules.com/history.html The lame rejection reason was no update to latest edition because :"by changing from the 10th edition to the current addition(sic), this could complicate the proceedings. If Robert's Rulesof Order issues a new edition shortly before a convention,the convention would be bound by this new edition which maynot be widely known"Since the changes in rules and procedures in each new edition are usually very minor, this should not present a problem. Most, but not all changes, are in the way of clarification of existing rules. I doubt very seriously that you will see a wholesale revision of the rules themselves! You might find it noteworthy that the 11th edition was released during and at the NAP (National Association of Parliamentarians) biennial convention in 2011, a convention at which a major revision of the bylaws was undertaken. I did not attend that convention, but I understand that having the new edition come out during the convention was not a problem. Perhaps someone who was there can tell you how they handled it. I think the concern being raised by the doubters is unfounded and is probably based on their lack of knowledge of RONR. Edited to add: btw, you do know that we are in the 11th edition now, not the 10th edition, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cyan Posted August 17, 2015 at 02:51 AM Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 at 02:51 AM Richard - Thank you for your response, yes I know 11th edition !!! But these folks are backwardsand afraid of the 11th edition for lame reasons as given. Thank you for the link to the historyof the releases, I'll try again to get them to budge from the 10th to use the up to date editions.I did use the language suggested in RONR for the bylaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cyan Posted August 17, 2015 at 02:58 AM Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 at 02:58 AM okay, cool, the biennial conventions 38t, 39th and 40th of parliamentarians was heldSeptember, so my organization's usual August Convention will not experience the fearedsurprise RONR change prior to our convention !!! - Swats down that excuse ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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