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The election ( for three positions as Director )  is unfortunately  late in the meeting , and held after  various  Director and Financial reports -  the election  results are delayed .  The time for the meeting to -  end is  set by carried agenda -and is  to end at   8:30 pm  . At 8:25 the presiding officer invites  a motion to fix a time to which  to adjourn  ( no mover ) , or  for a recess for 30 minutes to await the vote results ( no mover ) .

Neither motion is made,  and the  meeting is  accordingly adjoined at 8:30 pm, absent the election  vote results . The assembly is to  meet again in a year -for the annual  meeting  .  The vote results come in at 9: 30 pm and are handed to the presiding officer to deal with . What should be done respecting  announcement of the vote or is the vote result now delayed for an entire year ?

The presiding  officer decides that the vote result will be communicated to  the assembly website and provides that election result - on her behalf-  and that of the Chief  Election Clerk-  at 10:30 pm . Members are notified that  the ballots will be retained  until the next annual meeting and will be offered for destruction  at that time .

Thanks anyone- for suggestions  or best resposes .

D Llama 

 

 

 

 

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What's the difference between this thread and the one you made earlier?  http://robertsrules.forumflash.com/index.php?/topic/29850-election-runs-over-meeting-time/

Not that it matters much since your group doesn't follow RONR, or just good common sense, and they allow the presiding officer to be dictatorial.  Do what you've been doing as a group - make it up as you go along.

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Quite right George on two counts . This is something of a repeat - was just fishing to see if there was any other view or perspective on the email notification . I did locate in  Parliamenatary Law  , p. 230 para 1, a very specific statement respecting the need to announce the vote at the meeting ,or at a meeting adjourned to for that purpose  . And that no other business be done in the interim -if  adjourned  for that announcement . 

As for following RONR , my experience  is mainly that even those who are quite diligent and  try to follow RONR , invariably come up short unless they have a trained parlimanatarian to help with that .  For the untrained or those without expert help -RONR is quite a meal to digest . So many assemblies  do in fact limp along and make it up ( usually in good faith )   as best then can from annual meeting to annual meeting . 

Moving along, however,  there is a related question if you would consider that : 

If after an election a  vote is announced for X - X is elected - may a member move to set aside the election of  X on the grounds that the member is  dissatisfied  with the manner in which the election has been conduced  ( or some such wording as that ) . Assume the bylaws are silent on this subject - this is a hypothetical .

Thanks George or anyone with a view . 

DLlama

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Guest D. Llama said:

If after an election a  vote is announced for X - X is elected - may a member move to set aside the election of  X on the grounds that the member is  dissatisfied  with the manner in which the election has been conduced  ( or some such wording as that ) . Assume the bylaws are silent on this subject - this is a hypothetical .

No.

Depending on what exactly the member is dissatisfied with, his appropriate course of action might be to move for a recount, to raise a Point of Order (followed by an Appeal if necessary), or to simply live with his dissatisfaction.

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Thanks to both Mr H.  and Mr M .

The question posed  and answered by a  "no"  from Mr Martin , is much to the point   - and pages 444-446 had been reviewed- but a "no" answer to the question -  was  not quite discernible - at least   for this poor reader . Unfortunately I happen to be one of those plodders  who has to " brave "  RONR and find it a huge "project"  and meal ( RONRIB p.7 )- 7 courses or so ! 

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DLlama

 

 

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