Calling for a no vote

[Guest Vote]

On page 45, it is explained the chair must always call for the negative vote, no matter how nearly unanimous the affirmative vote may appear. However, later it says that "a further exception arises when the negative vote is intrinsically, irrelevant, as for example, when "a vote of one fifth of those present"". Don't these two statements contradict each other. What would constitute intrinsically irrelevant? And doesn't the first statement establish that the negative vote should be called no matter how clear a margin of victory?

[Dan Honemann]

4 hours ago, Guest Vote said:

On page 45, it is explained the chair must always call for the negative vote, no matter how nearly unanimous the affirmative vote may appear. However, later it says that "a further exception arises when the negative vote is intrinsically, irrelevant, as for example, when "a vote of one fifth of those present"". Don't these two statements contradict each other. What would constitute intrinsically irrelevant? And doesn't the first statement establish that the negative vote should be called no matter how clear a margin of victory?

Whenever a voting requirement is based on the number of members present (see p. 403), the number of members voting "no" cannot possibly affect the result of the vote, and if the number voting in the affirmative is sufficient for passage, the negative vote need not be called for because it is intrinsically irrelevant. This is so because, not only is it impossible for the negative vote to affect the result of the vote, the negative vote will also have no affect on determining who may or may not make a motion to Reconsider.