Guest Don't want to be that guy Posted June 13, 2017 at 01:24 AM Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 at 01:24 AM A board member of our association recently chose to resign rather than be removed from the board and is now "stirring the pot" so to speak among the general membership. This former board member has asked to attend the next scheduled board meeting to present a motion. There is nothing in our constitution that states who is allowed to make notice of motions, except for in the case of an Annual General Meeting, members can present motions 14 days in advance of the AGM. His argument is that there is nothing in the consttitution or policy that says he can't attend and make the motion. I counter with there is nothing that says he can. Is there anything in Roberts Rules that would support either position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Who's Coming to Dinner Posted June 13, 2017 at 03:55 AM Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 at 03:55 AM Has the board (or whatever body is so empowered) accepted the resignation? If so, Mr. X is no longer a member and has no right to attend the meeting, speak, or make a motion except by permission of the board. RONR is quite clear that those are privileges reserved to the members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Don't Want to be that guy Posted June 14, 2017 at 05:27 AM Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 at 05:27 AM Mr. X' s resignation from his elected position as a board member has been accepted, but he remains member of the association. Our constitution doesn't specifically define a difference between members of the association and members of the association's board. Mr. X, and a few of his supporters, claim they have a right to attend and observe the regularly scheduled board meetings because they pay fees (Its a minor sports organization), and they have a right to present notices of motions that should be discussed. Mr. X continues to claim he is correct because it is not written anywhere that says it isn't his right to do so. Is there something specific in RONR I can show him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g40 Posted June 14, 2017 at 12:22 PM Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 at 12:22 PM 6 hours ago, Guest Don't Want to be that guy said: Mr. X' s resignation from his elected position as a board member has been accepted, but he remains member of the association. Our constitution doesn't specifically define a difference between members of the association and members of the association's board. Mr. X, and a few of his supporters, claim they have a right to attend and observe the regularly scheduled board meetings because they pay fees (Its a minor sports organization), and they have a right to present notices of motions that should be discussed. Mr. X continues to claim he is correct because it is not written anywhere that says it isn't his right to do so. Is there something specific in RONR I can show him? Unless you have some very unusual Bylaws, only Board members can present motions at a Board meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Who's Coming to Dinner Posted June 14, 2017 at 04:45 PM Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 at 04:45 PM 11 hours ago, Guest Don't Want to be that guy said: Mr. X continues to claim he is correct because it is not written anywhere that says it isn't his right to do so. Is there something specific in RONR I can show him? Mr. X is full of it. By his logic, he is equally entitled to come tapdance on your tabletop because the rules don't prohibit it. "[The executive board] may protect itself against breaches of order by its members during board meetings, and against annoyance by nonmembers, by employing the procedures outlined on pages 645–649…." RONR (11th ed.), p.486, ll. 19–22 "Nonmembers, on the other hand—or a particular nonmember or group of nonmembers—can be excluded at any time from part or all of a meeting of a society, or from all of its meetings." RONR (11th ed.), p.644, ll. 29–32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Hunt Posted June 16, 2017 at 04:22 AM Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 at 04:22 AM To clarify a bit more: the Board is a separate assembly and has its own membership. A member right to attend meetings and make motions only extends to assemblies of which they are a member. So if Mr. X is not a member of the Board any more, then, except as your rules might provide, he has no rights at all at a Board meeting any more than a nonmember of the association does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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