Scott Brasch Posted December 24, 2010 at 01:30 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 at 01:30 PM I understand we will be seeing a new edition in 2011. Does anyone know if a red lined addition will be available showing the changes that were made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted December 24, 2010 at 01:50 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 at 01:50 PM Does anyone know if a red lined addition will be available showing the changes that were made?I'm almost certain that the answer to that question is "yes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted December 24, 2010 at 02:53 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 at 02:53 PM I'm almost certain that the answer to that question is "yes".I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted December 24, 2010 at 03:01 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 at 03:01 PM Actually, I believe Mr. Mountcastle's answer to the question ("Does anyone know....") is correct. Who that "anyone" might be seems to have been answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted December 24, 2010 at 03:03 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 at 03:03 PM Actually, I believe Mr. Mountcastle's answer to the question ("Does anyone know....") is correct. Who that "anyone" might be seems to have been answered.I wouldn't be so quick to discount Mr. Honemann's reply.It's quite possible, even likely, that no one knows if a red lined "addition" will be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Rempel Posted December 24, 2010 at 03:13 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 at 03:13 PM Part of the fun of a new edition is going through it and marking the new things for yourself. Happy Holidays to all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted December 24, 2010 at 03:32 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 at 03:32 PM I wouldn't be so quick to discount Mr. Honemann's reply.It's quite possible, even likely, that no one knows if a red lined "addition" will be available.Nonetheless...I'm reminded of a Benny Hill skit. Benny, as irascible game show host, Little Jackie Wright as the beleaguered contestant (against a younger, handsomer opponent) receiving all the tough questions.Benny: 1,517 people died in the sinking of the Titanic. Can you name them all?Jackie: No, and that's a correct answer.(laughter and applause, Benny makes face , Jackie gets 5 points) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted December 24, 2010 at 08:19 PM Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 at 08:19 PM Does anyone know if a red lined addition will be available showing the changes that were made?It's never been done with any of the previous editions to the best of my knowledge, so I wouldn't bet on it. I think it is more likely that the 11th edition will follow the example of the 10th edition, including a preface which summarizes the major areas of revision and clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GebySan Posted December 31, 2010 at 08:01 PM Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 at 08:01 PM I am a designated Parliamentarian for a non-profit.Our bylaws reference the current edition of RONR as our parliamentary authority, but when we have our National Convention in mid-Summer, what will be the current edition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert B Fish Posted December 31, 2010 at 08:18 PM Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 at 08:18 PM If the 11th Edition has been issued by that time, it will be the "current edition" although your organization must interpret the meaning of your bylaws.Also, if desired, the convention could suspend the rules to decide which edition would prevail. E.g., if the 11th edition comes out on June 1 and your convention was in early June, you might decide that keeping the 10th edition this year would be best.-Bob p.s. Does anyone know of the publication date for "The 11th?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted December 31, 2010 at 09:45 PM Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 at 09:45 PM Our bylaws reference the current edition of RONR as our parliamentary authority, but when we have our National Convention in mid-Summer, what will be the current edition?The 10th edition, most likely.p.s. Does anyone know of the publication date for "The 11th?"Last I heard, the 11th edition is scheduled to be unveiled at the NAP Convention in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadman15241 Posted April 15, 2011 at 08:51 PM Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 at 08:51 PM Dan or anyone else that knows,Will there be an electronic version of the 11th Edition available at the same time as the print edition? I really hope that there will be and that the price this time will be more reasonable than the 10th Edition. I think paying 2x as much as the paperback version is a fair price, not greater than 5x the paperback. Thanks.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted April 16, 2011 at 10:27 AM Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 at 10:27 AM Dan or anyone else that knows,Will there be an electronic version of the 11th Edition available at the same time as the print edition? I really hope that there will be and that the price this time will be more reasonable than the 10th Edition. I think paying 2x as much as the paperback version is a fair price, not greater than 5x the paperback. Thanks.JohnI am reasonably sure that there will be an electronic version available either at the same time or shortly after the print edition becomes available. I've no idea what it will cost (and have nothing to do with that), but of course the electronic version contains a great deal more than just RONR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanh49 Posted April 29, 2011 at 06:10 PM Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 at 06:10 PM Amazon is taking pre-orders for the 11th edtion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted April 29, 2011 at 10:36 PM Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 at 10:36 PM Amazon is taking pre-orders for the 11th edtionWith a publication date of 9/27/11. And 800 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted April 29, 2011 at 11:37 PM Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 at 11:37 PM With a publication date of 9/27/11. And 800 pages.800 pages? KG's gonna love that! I hope they've expanded upon the woefully inadequate and brief section on Amend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted April 30, 2011 at 03:33 PM Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 at 03:33 PM 800 pages? KG's gonna love that! I hope they've expanded upon the woefully inadequate and brief section on Amend.I, for one, would welcome your additional remarks about why you think the section on Amend is "...woefully inadequate and brief...". That is quite something to say, given that the procedure for amending a motion lies at the very heart of the deliberative process. Would you care to elaborate just a little bit for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted April 30, 2011 at 03:35 PM Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 at 03:35 PM I, for one, would welcome your additional remarks about why you think the section on Amend is "...woefully inadequate and brief...". That is quite something to say, given that the procedure for amending a motion lies at the very heart of the deliberative process. Would you care to elaborate just a little bit for us?I think I detected a grace-note of sarcasm in the description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted April 30, 2011 at 03:37 PM Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 at 03:37 PM I think I detected a grace-note of sarcasm in the description.I, too, thought the tongue and cheek were in close proximity (which, of course, is the only kind of proximity). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted April 30, 2011 at 04:10 PM Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 at 04:10 PM I, for one, would welcome your additional remarks about why you think the section on Amend is "...woefully inadequate and brief...". That is quite something to say, given that the procedure for amending a motion lies at the very heart of the deliberative process. Would you care to elaborate just a little bit for us?Given that Mr. Foulkes included the "tongue sticking out" smiley at the conclusion of the sentence, I suspect his comment that the longest section in the book was "woefully inadequate and brief" was not intended to be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ervin A Posted September 15, 2011 at 04:12 PM Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 at 04:12 PM Has anyone heard if there will be an electronic version for the iPad and Droid devices? That sure would save a lot of trees and be easier to find topics.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted September 15, 2011 at 06:34 PM Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 at 06:34 PM Has anyone heard if there will be an electronic version for the iPad and Droid devices? That sure would save a lot of trees and be easier to find topics..We have lots of trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Hunt Posted September 21, 2011 at 02:22 PM Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 at 02:22 PM A chain bookstore here in Canuckistan had copies, but mine is unfortunately not entirely complete: the first sections on incidental motions, including the very important page 254 (or its 11th edition equivalent), were left out in favor of duplicates of the later sections, such as the comparably unexciting page 282. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted September 22, 2011 at 11:22 PM Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 at 11:22 PM I haven't been on here in over half a year -- the imminent arrival (finally) of the 11th edition is entertaining news to find on checking in. Yes, my real-world acquaintances would find this odd and inexplicable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted September 22, 2011 at 11:22 PM Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 at 11:22 PM She's ba-aack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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