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  1. Roll Call Vote Election

    Oh yes it is, for a viva voce election, p. 442 - or almost anyway - the use of a roll-call does cloud the issue a bit. RONR speaks to that combination but p. 443 isn't clear whether the responses by the voters are names or Yes/No votes. I wonder if Guest T Henle's organization bylaws require ballot votes. If so the (public) roll-call system is improper no matter how the voters respond.
  2. Official Opinion

    Not inappropriate but it would be best to contact either the NAP or AIP for a local reference: Contact either (or both) the ... National Association of Parliamentarians 213 South Main St. Independence, MO 64050-3850 Phone: 888-627-2929 Fax: 816-833-3893; e-mail: hq@NAP2.org <<www.parliamentarians.org>> or American Institute of Parliamentarians 618 Church Street, Ste 220 Nashville, TN 37219 phone: 888-664-0428 e-mail: aip@aipparl.org << www.aipparl.org >> for a reference or information. Both organizations offer training and contacts with local parliamentarians.
  3. Elections for President/Vice-President

    No "contradiction", but it seems to me to be a bad idea: A "President-Elect" strikes me as a sort of trainee position, where the future president learns (by watching, &c. for a year or so) the ropes and how to be a president. A Vice-President is someone who is (in the ideal situation, anyway) ready to become the president on a moment's notice. No training involved. These two concepts don't fit together very well. The two offices probably should not be combined, but that is up to the association in question.
  4. Postpone part of agenda

    Probably not. An agenda, which is just a portion of the Order of Business, RONR p. 271, is no more no less than a simple list of specific items which you plan to take up for consideration and action at a business meeting. Thus, if you don't get through the entire list at one meeting, just wait until the next meeting -- put the "unreached" items on the next meeting agenda. Don't make a formal motion to postpone the rest of the agenda -- technically there is nothing to postpone since those items have not been reached and put before the assembly. Adopting an agenda does NOT move the listed items in any way, it just tells you the order that they will be moved as you get to them.
  5. Calling a Special Meeting

    Clearly the "or" says either the "chair OR 25%..." can "call" the meeting when and where they want (within reason, of course). There is obviously no requirement to get the permission of the other party. You are using "noticed" is a non-RONR manner, but I suspect it is the same as calling a meeting. The call (see page 92) has to contain full information about the issue(s) to be discussed and acted upon at the special meeting, and has to be sent out at least a week in advance.
  6. I suppose, unless you can get the secretary off the dime, you could do it all yourself.
  7. Authority to Un-appoint?

    Earlier Jimm wrote... Oct 2014 was the first election. The EB was to take office after that election, naturally. But, there was a run-off for one of the EB positions. The newly elected EB waited until that run-off election was completed before they got around to holding their first EB meeting in January 2015, three months after the election was held. They are basing their "term" on 3 years from when they held their first EB meeting officially. Jimm Well, that ain't RONR's definition (or the world's for that matter) of a "term". Ask your friends where they got that nonsense.
  8. when a second not needed

    Generally, yes, a second is necessary and appropriate. (There are exceptions.) All member property?: After the motion has been stated, BY THE CHAIR, it then becomes the "property" of the assembly to do with it what it will. Your char seems to have reversed things somewhat. The proper sequence is (after recognition): member makes motion, someone seconds it (no recognition needed), chair states it, then debate and possible amendment goes on. Eventual vote. Lots more details about the steps start on page 32 of RONR.
  9. Resignation of a board- via text

    First of all, is doing business "outside" of meetings, via text, e-mail, or whatever, authorized in your bylaws? Secondly, a resignation (a "request to be excused from a duty" - RONR, p. 289ff.) is not effective until it has been formally accepted by the body that can replace him/her - p. 291. Whether someone can call an "emergency board meeting" (what RONR call a "Special Meeting" - p. 91) has to be in your bylaws. Is it? That's enough questions for one response, on my part.
  10. Bylaws interpretation

    Are there no other membership requirements beyond "residing or owning property..."? How to "challenge"?: Go to the election meeting and raise a point of order that there was, I guess, no proper notice to all the "members" prior to the amending of the bylaws at an earlier meeting. BTW, if there was no notice, how did you find out about the election meeting? Perhaps the bylaws detail what kind of a notice is required. Check carefully.
  11. Resignation of board

    Well, yeah.. the "very few" members are THE members and they can elect whomever they please. Nothing in violation of RONR in that.
  12. Oops, your "alpha-unit" link came back "not found"
  13. Not just "do not not need to be", but "should not be", or even "are not"! See HHH's citation.
  14. In the order asked... 1). Yes, sorta, at least for meetings vie e-mail (which may or may not be helpful). Click this link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g8w31eocwqx067h/E-Meetings 2012.docx?dl=0 And if you like what you read, click this one: https://www.dropbox.com/s/453cfqxcmt9cbuk/E-Meetings in Real World 2012.docx?dl=0 2). The NAP has been using a good system: Adobe Connect. http://www.adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html Ask them (http://www.parliamentarians.org/) how they like it. It ain't free, of course.