Richard Brown

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  1. Don, again I ask that you quote for us EXACTLY (verbatim, word for word) what the bylaws that were in effect at the time of the meeting say about the amendment process.
  2. Not unless you have s customized rule that permits it. Even if a motion is written for clarity or due to its complexity, it must be moved orally in person. Btw, I don't think RONR says written motions have priority. Can you cite your authority for that statement?
  3. Don, your answer is probably going to be found in your bylaws. What EXACTLY do they say about amending the bylaws and notice? Please quote exactly, don't paraphrase.
  4. This was the annual meeting according to the original post.
  5. Doggone it, Hieu, if you had said that a bit earlier, you would have saved several of us a bunch of typing!!
  6. Well, the members can refuse to show up for the meeting, leaving it without a quorum. And they can vote to adjourn any time they want to, even right after the meeting is called to order. And if a motion to adjourn fails to get a majority vote, enough members to deprive the meeting of a quorum can simply walk out. So, I would say that the members definitely can refuse to hold a specially called meeting. I do agree that an agenda is not required. As to the scope of notice issue at a special meeting, I've never heard it expressed the way you did, but will leave it to others to quibble with it. I know what you mean by it but I'm not sure O.P. Jay does. I prefer the terminology RONR uses for describing what business can be conducted at a special meeting. Edited to add: technically a meeting can be held even without a quorum, but it is very limited as to what can be done and no substantive business can be conducted.
  7. Duplicate post
  8. Keep in mind, Jay , that if thus is a special meeting, the purpose of the meeting and the business conducted cannot vary from the purpose of the meeting and the items listed in the call of the meeting. You can vary the order of items on the proposed agenda but you cannot add any substantive business to it. Can you be more specific about the issue here?
  9. I imagine that wesleyjr is actually talking about the motion to postpone to a definite time rather than the motion to "Lay on the table". Unfortunately, laymen often erroneously refer to it as "tabling". In RONR there is no such thing as a motion to "table". As Mr. Katz and Mr. Goodwiller pointed out, there is a motion to"lay on the table" and a motion to "postpone to a definite time" (and also a motion to postpone indefinitely). They all have a different purpose and are subject to different rules.
  10. It matters because Transpower is misinterpreting and incorrectly applying the principles of interpretation contained in the 11th edition of RONR . That erroneous application is leading to an absurd result.
  11. Well, as Joshua Katz correctly pointed out on July 15, the president can declare the meeting adjourned without a motion to do so in certain emergency situations. Edited to add: also, as George Mervosh pointed out in the very first response in this thread back on July 14, he can do so if a specific preset time for adjournment has been reached or if the agenda or order of business had been concluded and he has established that there is no further business.
  12. I concur with Josh Martin's comments. The society's Constitution is the superior document/rule.
  13. I agree completely with Greg Goodwiller and Dan Honemann and I am at at a complete loss as to how Transpower is coming up with his interpretation. It defies logic, common sense and the principles of interpretation. It is just plain wrong.
  14. Dr.

    I agree with Bruce Lages and would add or make clear that making s motion in executive session does not cause the executive session to end or to become "open".
  15. There is nothing in RONR that restricts what a society's Parliamentarian can do outside of meetings.