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Everything posted by alanh49
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I was going to cite RONR 12th ed. 45:36 to prove my point. But then I read RONR 12th ed. 46:33 which proves your point So I'll concede that that I was wrong.
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If (A) (B) & (C) are all running for 3 different positions. They are not running against each other. This means they all got a majority of the votes cast for that office or position and were elected. (A) by a vote of 25 to 0, (B) by a vote of 21 to 0, and (C) by a vote of 10 to 0. There was no need to take a separate vote on (C)
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As long as a quorum is still present when the vote is taken it doesn't matter who or how or how many have left.
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Disposing of Main Motion seconded, but never voted on
alanh49 replied to a topic in General Discussion
Well, since no one made a point of order that there was already a motion on the floor when the second motion was made, I think it replaced the first motion. I would also note that the second motion does the first motion was trying to do name the chair. -
But two thirds is more than half so it is a majority. It is a majority of a certain size. The two terms are not contradictory but adding majority after two thirds is pointless and should not be done.
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What to do if the chairman made a procedural mistake.
alanh49 replied to donaltman3's topic in General Discussion
I agree with what is written above. But how does putting on an agenda [that is sent to all members before the meeting] that a motion will be made to amend or rescind the rule on mask not count as giving notice in the call of the meeting? I think they should rescind the present rule on mask and adopt a new one this can be done in one motion. -
Do the bylaws say they hold office until their successors are elected? Because if does not their term will end in February
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What about ratification by bylaw amendment? In other words what if the bylaws were amended by adding something like the following: Electronics meetings may be or have been held and the validity of any such meeting shall not be questioned merely because it was an electronics meetings.
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I would note that well the Nominating Committee cannot nominate one of its own a members of the Nominating Committee can be nominated by petition. So they can run for office but when it comes to filling a vacancy only the Nominating Committee can do it and because the bylaws do not say that the Nominating Committee cannot appoint one of its own to fill the vacancy I think it can.
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Well in this case since it says it is a 3-year term I think 2016-2018 means to the end of 2018 and not the beginning of 2018
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Well, no because we don't know why the OP thought the amendment was out of order and there are cases in which the timeliest rule would not apply. I was thinking of those cases in which it did apply. Well, no because we don't know why the OP thought the amendment was out of order and there are cases in which the timeliest rule would not apply. I was thinking of those cases in which it did apply.
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But, if you need a majority of the members present to adopt the motion an abstention will have the same effect as voting no
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IMO the chair was correct, and the point of order was untimely, but I also think that the appeal was debatable. However, any debate should have been limited to whether or not the point of order was timely and if the chair is overruled the chair would then have needed to rule on the original point of order.
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Voting Requirement for Postponed Motions
alanh49 replied to Alexis Hunt's topic in Advanced Discussion
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Voting Requirement for Postponed Motions
alanh49 replied to Alexis Hunt's topic in Advanced Discussion
I'm sorry but if that is the purpose of giving notice and I always thought it was how does postponing a motion to the next meeting not also give interested members time to ensure their attendance and prepare their arguments. It seems to me that postponing a motion to the next meeting is tantamount to giving notice that it will be considered at the next meeting. -
What you the voters are told that while they may vote for up to 3 nominees they should not vote for the person they want to see file the short term. If the one in 3rd place still has a majority, he is elected, and if he does not have a majority you hold a run-off election in which he is the sole nominee. In which case, the rules in question do not require a vote by ballot.
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Secretary casting vote in uncontested election
alanh49 replied to TraderFred's topic in General Discussion
I haven't been to a meeting at which someone moved that the secretary casting the ballot since the 1960's maybe early 70's and while said motion was always adopted the secretary never did cast a ballot or say that he was doing so. -
Why is the motion to Postpone Indefinitely not dilatory?
alanh49 replied to Sean Hunt's topic in Advanced Discussion
Where does RONR say that because on p.393 ll.20-22 it says: "In debate, the maker of a motion, while he can vote against it, is not allowed to speak against his own motion." I don't see how speaking in support of the main motion isn't the same as speaking against the motion to Postpone Indefinitely. -
Why is the motion to Postpone Indefinitely not dilatory?
alanh49 replied to Sean Hunt's topic in Advanced Discussion
Does the rule against speaking against your own motion apply in this case because if it does no one who supports the main motion can move to it Postpone Indefinitely just to get more debate time and while if you're against the main motion you could do so more likely than not you'd you'd be making it to kill the main motion and not just to get more debate time.