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George Mervosh

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  1. Majority of the baord

    Unless the vote required to adopt the motion is a vote of a majority of the entire board, yes.
  2. Perhaps. If the member has been properly expelled in accordance with your rules "The only way to reverse an expulsion is to follow whatever procedure is prescribed by the bylaws for admission or reinstatement." (Quoted from RONR (11th ed.), p. 308)
  3. Ballot Votes in Committee

    Yes, I don't think there is any implication that a committee cannot vote by ballot as well if they decide to.
  4. Ballot Votes in Committee

    There is no rule in RONR that prohibits a committee from adopting a motion to vote by ballot. They may also enter into executive session as well if a greater degree of privacy is desired.
  5. A constitution & bylaws merger

    If your interpretation were correct, it's unlikely Mr. Gerber would have posted about that possibility.
  6. Recording Secretary

    Aside from your chairman another problem: " In an ordinary society, the minutes should contain mainly a record of what was done at the meeting, not what was said by the members. The minutes should never reflect the secretary's opinion, favorable or otherwise, on anything said or done." RONR (11th ed.), p. 468. The Secretary needs to stop putting what was said into the minutes. Also: The Secretary can refuse to make changes to the unapproved draft. Once the minutes are approved by the board, those minutes can only be amended by the board. What do you mean by publishing?
  7. steps to null and void a meeting

    It seems the national organizations sees a problem which no one else does, at least based on these facts. Best of luck.
  8. steps to null and void a meeting

    If that meeting was properly called and held according to your bylaws and the board had the authority to accept it, it seems to be a done deal as far as the rules in RONR are concerned. Don't ask us to explain the position of your national organization though. It makes zero sense, at least to me.
  9. steps to null and void a meeting

    Just re-read Mr. Honemann's comment regarding the meeting itself. As far as the resignation is concerned, if no action was taken on it, it might be a moot point if the President changes his mind. http://www.robertsrules.com/faq.html#18
  10. "When the bylaws provide that the president shall be ex officio a member of all committees (or of all committees with the stated exception of those from which the president is best excluded; see pp. 579–80), the president is an ex-officio member who has the right, but not the obligation, to participate in the proceedings of the committees, and he is not counted in determining the number required for a quorum or whether a quorum is present at a meeting. " RONR (11th ed.), p. 497. If another member of the society was also an ex officio member of a committee and the bylaws did provide what is shown above, the other member would count toward a quorum.
  11. Nominations and Election of Chair

    When nominations are closed, what is pending that is debatable?
  12. Nominations and Election of Chair

    Nominations. Sorry.
  13. Nominations and Election of Chair

    I think the point is, while they're not pending they're not debatable. It might sound a bit hyper-technical if you're moving right into debate after closing them, but I do not think that's the proper way to do it.
  14. Nominations and Election of Chair

    John, when nominations are closed, what's there to discuss? The proper time to debate any matter is while it is pending, not afterwards. Once all are identified, but they remain open, I can't see why not. It's also possible to re-open nominations for the sole purpose of debating them.
  15. Nominations and Election of Chair

    Nominations are debatable by all members present when it is in order to make them. RONR (11th ed.), tinted pages 18-19, motion 49. Technically there should be no debate by anyone after nominations were completed, including the speeches by the candidates, but nominations should have stayed open until everyone including the candidates had a chance to speak.
  16. Meeting Minues Distribution / Availability

    RONR does not require the board to distribute the minutes to the membership. "A record of the board's proceedings should be kept by the secretary, just as in any other assembly; these minutes are accessible only to the members of the board unless the board grants permission to a member of the society to inspect them, or unless the society by a two-thirds vote (or the vote of a majority of the total membership, or a majority vote if previous notice is given) orders the board's minutes to be produced and read to the society's assembly. " RONR (11th ed.), p. 487
  17. school board and superintendent

    No matter who is speaking, the rules for decorum must be followed. See RONR (11th ed.), pp. 392-394 The presiding officer should strictly yet fairly enforce these rules.
  18. Uncontested nomination - HELP!

    At first blush it seems that a ballot vote is required given all of the references to one. "If the bylaws require the election of officers to be by ballot and there is only one nominee for an office, the ballot must nevertheless be taken for that office unless the bylaws provide for an exception in such a case. In the absence of the latter provision, members still have the right, on the ballot, to cast "write-in votes" for other eligible persons. " RONR (11th ed.), pp. 441-442. Make sure there's a space for a write in.
  19. Ok that's fine. The initial response you received is correct. I was just curious about the meeting date.
  20. Is the time for your regular yearly membership meeting established by the bylaws?
  21. President Duties

    I guess I'm the only one who thinks it sounds like a meeting but as Mr. Katz says you can check with an attorney about any legal questions.
  22. Principal Office

    RONR is silent on this. I personally see no reason for it. (I first read this title as "Prinicipal's Office" and thought back to the time or ten I visited it...... )
  23. I don't know, I didn't notice that, but my question was more generic even though helping Mr. Frederick is what the point of this thread is.
  24. I do too, but will a 2/3 vote cut it or will it be the same vote that is required to adopt a special rule of order? I only ask because p. 406 mentions "by virtue of a special rule previously adopted"?
  25. Perhaps this passage may be of help: "A plurality vote is the largest number of votes to be given any candidate or proposition when three or more choices are possible; the candidate or proposition receiving the largest number of votes has a plurality. A plurality that is not a majority never chooses a proposition or elects anyone to office except by virtue of a special rule previously adopted. If such a rule is to apply to the election of officers, it must be prescribed in the bylaws. A rule that a plurality shall elect is unlikely to be in the best interests of the average organization. In an international or national society where the election is conducted by mail ballot, a plurality is sometimes allowed to elect officers, with a view to avoiding the delay and extra expense that would result from additional balloting under these conditions. A better method in such cases is for the bylaws to prescribe some form of preferential voting (see pp. 425–28). RONR (11th ed.), pp 405-406 emphasis added by me. By your facts, you are not electing officers.