Guest CWhite Posted October 4, 2017 at 10:04 PM Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 at 10:04 PM Currently, our committee has two co-chairs and each has voting rights. It has been proposed that if there are two chairs then they should only have one vote. The rationale is that that one vote can be used to break a tie. Is this approach valid? If both are at a meeting with a tied motion, how do you decide who gets to vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hieu H. Huynh Posted October 4, 2017 at 10:35 PM Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 at 10:35 PM RONR does not recommend having co-chairs. If your rules allow for them, it will be up to your organization to decide these issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted October 4, 2017 at 11:42 PM Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 at 11:42 PM 1 hour ago, Guest CWhite said: Currently, our committee has two co-chairs and each has voting rights. It has been proposed that if there are two chairs then they should only have one vote. The rationale is that that one vote can be used to break a tie. Is this approach valid? If both are at a meeting with a tied motion, how do you decide who gets to vote? The presiding officer's vote has more to it than "breaking" ties. The presiding officer may vote freely or abstain whenever his one vote would make a difference: to create or break a tie, to achieve or deny a 2/3 vote if that were the threshold. For a ballot vote, the presiding officer votes with everyone else. Unless your bylaws expressly create co-chair offices, you do not actually have co-chairs. Even if you do, you'll need to have a way to decide which chair presides at a given meeting. A meeting cannot have two chairs. It's patent nonsense, and completely unworkable. The presiding chair at that meeting would follow the rules for the presiding officer, and the "other" chair would simply be a member. Regardless, the rules in RONR provide for a strict one-person-one-vote rule for all except stock corporations, where votes depend on shares owned. You should figure out which of your chairs is the chair, and which is the vice-chair. By the way, how large is this committee? If it's not more than about a dozen, just use small-board rules and the voting problem goes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted October 5, 2017 at 02:49 AM Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 at 02:49 AM It might help to keep in mind that when it comes to voting, you count heads, not hats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Goodwiller, PRP Posted October 5, 2017 at 02:36 PM Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 at 02:36 PM I would add two comments to this conversation First, "it is a fundamental principle of parliamentary law that each person who is a member of a deliberative assembly is entitled to one - and only one - vote on a question" (RONR Pg. 407, ll. 1-4). That said, the question posed is about a committee, which by definition is not a form of deliberative assembly. Second, according to Robert's Rules, in small boards and in committees (regardless of the size), "If the chairman is a member, he may, without leaving the chair, speak in informal discussions and in debate, and vote on all questions" (RONR pg. 488, ll. 18-20). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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