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  2. Aha!!! The strikethrough is working fine, both when typing an original comment and when editing, and the indent function is working again, too: Testing the indent function.... yes it seems to be working, but let me see if it "sticks" when the next line starts. Yep, works fine!!! Thank you!!! Edited to test the strikethrough function when editing: Yep, it worked perfectly!
  3. Apologies - I was trying to edit the previous post and it posted a new one. I can't delete, so I'm editing it out.
  4. Sure, happy to clarify. I'm going to use "parent organization" for our parent group, and "subsidiary organization" for our group. There's a document referred to as a "constitution" for the subsidiary organization. The subsidiary organization has no separate bylaws. This constitution is provided by the parent organization, and accepting it is a requirement for our subsidiary organization's existence. It provides: The Annual Business Meeting isn't *our* group - it's the *parent* group. Elsewhere in the constitution it provides: Since that second provision is in the constitut
  5. Yesterday
  6. Are you sure the parent organization bylaws absolutely prohibit changing your quorum requirement? Could you quote the provision that you believe establishes a quorum requirement that you cannot change? Please quote the provision verbatim, don’t paraphrase. You may, of course, disguise or omit the name of the organization if necessary.
  7. That depends in large part on what your bylaws say about the scheduling of the meetings, but nothing in RONR would prohibit it. However, are you sure you have the ability to reschedule the meeting? This again depends in large part on your bylaws and just what they say about the scheduling of meetings. The president or your board may or may not have the ability to reschedule a meeting. What do they say about how the meetings are scheduled and how do you actually go about scheduling the quarterly meetings?
  8. If we need to move a scheduled quarterly meeting due to the availability of the President, can it be held on the first day of the following Quarter?
  9. Could you cite this rule? There is no such rule in RONR. I am inclined to think not. The rule in question appears to authorize the Executive Committee to classify individual members as inactive, not to authorize them to adopt rules providing for members to automatically become inactive due to meeting some predefined condition.
  10. Also get the latest (twelfth) edition of Roberts rules , the 1893 edition only has historical value (but I guess some readers here would be willing to pay a lot for a unsoiled original copy of it enough to buy some copies of the 12 edition)
  11. Okay....this is a bit complex, but hear me out. An organization is meeting, and they *frequently* don't make quorum. There are things they're *absolutely required* to do that they can't do, sometimes for months on end. The solution to this would typically be to adjust the quorum (per guidance in 40:3). The problem is, the quorum is set at 50% in the bylaws, and the bylaws can't be amended because they're set by the parent organization. Fixing the problem on that level is a complete non-starter. So now we're down to what the organization *can* do. Membership in the organiza
  12. Yes. No rule in RONR prohibits it unless the meeting was held in executive (secret) session. Members are free to discuss with others what took place at meetings and to share minutes with others, whether draft minutes or approved minutes unless the society has a rule prohibiting it or if the meeting was held in executive session.
  13. Can minutes of an executive give board meeting be given to non-board members without the minutes being approved by the board ?Another board meeting has not been held yet to accept the ,inutes from the meeting in question.
  14. Thank you, Mr. Richard Brown. It has been a humbling experience to become acquainted with Robert's Rules of Order and apply it in the real world. I have read an old edition dating back to 1893, and I ordered the new brief edition promoted on this web site. Thank you again. If I could only upload the entire Zoom video recording that fateful afternoon, it might be edifying to others watching it. However, I would have to worry about matters of privacy and someone alleging a wrong done.
  15. The rules are to protect the assembly and the members of the organization. Nonmembers, which would include guests, have only those rights which the rules of the organization or which the assembly votes to afford to the nonmember. Guests do not even have the right to be present without the permission of the assembly or a rule or custom which permits it No, but that nonmember can quietly and unobtrusively try to get a member to do so. More information here would be helpful. If the motion has been partially carried out, generally the unexecuted part of the motion can be rescinded
  16. I disagree. The board voted affirmatively to permit her to continue speaking. At that point the chair’s opinion that her remarks were inappropriate became irrelevant. The board decided by majority vote to permit her to continue. The chair had no right to ignore that vote. Now, if the nature of her remarks changed after that and became inappropriate, at that point the chair could perhaps have taken action on his own such as ruling her comments out of order (or disruptive) or he could have renewed his motion to stop her from speaking. We don’t know whether or how the nature of her remarks
  17. Does Robert' Rules of Order confer any rights on third parties? Or do the rules only exist to protect members of the governing body? Can a person who is not a member of the governing body raise a point of order? If a third party takes action in reliance on an adopted motion by a governing body, can the motion still be rescinded if the governing body has not fully carried out the original motion?
  18. I am aware of no rule in RONR which prevents nominees from changing their minds, so in my opinion, the acceptance is valid. Even to the extent that the person must be renominated, members may nominate themselves, so that should not pose any problem. I would also note that RONR does not require that nominations be accepted in order for the candidate to be elected. (For that matter, a candidate does not have to be nominated to be elected.) Acceptance simply means that the election is final immediately upon completion even if the candidate is absent at the time of election. I would consider
  19. Since the speaker's comments appear to have strayed from the topic the speaker was invited to speak on, and appear to have also violated the rules of decorum, I think it would have been appropriate for the chair to order the individual to stop speaking and even to leave the meeting, but the chair's decision in this matter would be subject to appeal, so it seems to me it would have likely worked out the same way in the end.
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  21. (1) The person in question is not a member of the board; (2) The board's decision to allow her to speak does not negate your authority over non-members that violate decorum; (3) Your motion was not necessary, you could have exercised your authority at any moment; (4) A member of the board, however, could have appealed your decision, see 61:19.
  22. In retrospect, the board should have given our club member the reasons right away why she was not ratified to fill a vacant position. I had believed that our board could exercise a "privilege" to privately discuss and decide who to ratify for a board vacancy. One board officer and many club members felt that she deserved to know the reasons why she was not ratified. Finally I agreed to speak with her over the telephone and provide those reasons. She rejected those reasons and still requested to address the board at an upcoming open board meeting. Too late to realize that it would result i
  23. If she was told the substance of the presentation she was invited to make, the chair failed in his duty to call attention to her straying and to tell her to either stay on track or finish her remarks. Moreover, she ought not to have been permitted to make remarks about actions of the board taken in the past other than the action about which she was invited to speak. Personally, I do not know why she was invited to speak in the first place. The decision not to ratify was taken. The action is finished. The subject is closed.
  24. For all practical purposes, yes, you did. I am assuming there was no pre-set time limit on her comments, is that right? It appears that she was given permission by general consent (unanimous consent... without objection) to address the board but without a time limit. You as chair could certainly request that she wrap up her comments, but you alone did not have the authority to cut her off and make her stop speaking. You did the proper thing by making a motion that she stop speaking. In this case, since she is not a member and was a guest who had essentially been given permission to
  25. Last week
  26. Yes, I should have pointed out the exception for the nominating committee.
  27. If a person is nominated at a meeting for an upcoming officer position and declines the nomination, but later decides to accept the nomination, is the acceptance valid or does the person need to be renominated? The acceptance was following the meeting where the nomination was made, but prior to the next month's meeting where voting would occur.
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