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  1. The following administrative powers were (strangely) included in our 501c3's new/first Bylaws earlier this year. We are a public middle school PTO. Only the 5th/last of these seems reasonable to me. Policies -- Seek input and approval of school administration on all matters. Funding -- Fundraising efforts beyond dues must be approved by administration. Elections of Executive Committee -- Filling mid year vacancies requires administration approval. Special Meetings -- Administration may, on his/her own, call a special meeting. Treasurer Duties -- Draft the following year's budget with input from school administration The scope of administrative authority is so extensive, that the PTO's ability to operate as a separate 501c3 seems quite easily compromised. (I'd posted to this forum of our inability to fill our Treasurer role due to the admin approval requirement.) Undue influence could have partially been at play when the prior four PTO Mothers (officers last spring) knowingly signed these Bylaws into existence, with the administrative insertions "because he wouldn't have it any other way, and it's always how we have to operate anyway". (They are the first Bylaws for the organization, which was formed in 2016.) Could CT Statute Section 33 re nonprofit conflicts of interest be helpful to reign in administrative powers (possibly with the Executive Committee adopting conflicts of interest policies and procedures)? But it seems that we would be in a catch-22 yet again with administration approval required. Any suggestions please for what footing (from the above possibilities or others) to use in overturning the extensive administrative powers? Bylaws changes are needed of course, but how to implement this without being blocked by administration? The Bylaws Articles on Nonprofit Purposes and Powers are "clean", without administrative inclusion. However, the Policies Article includes: "This organization shall not seek to direct the administration of the school. To help ensure that the actions of this organization support the mission, vision, and direction of the school, this organization will seek the input and approval of the school's administration on all matters." Amendments to the Bylaws are stipulated normally within our Bylaws, including repeal as well, with two weeks notice and 2/3 vote of members. Only parents and teachers are members and can vote when in attendance. Administrators are not members and cannot vote. Could we move forward, seeking but without receiving, administrative approval, and have a member vote on updated Bylaws without the extensive administrative powers?
  2. OUR organization holds lectures, seminars,meetings etc. In order to motivate members to show up and participate, we moved and resolved that members who do not attend a certain number of such events each year, will not be eligible to work for the organization and get paid. So far so good, but: The e.g. after '" no member may be employed (PAID) by the association in any capacity" enumerated: "(Officer, committee member, ..writing for the website" etc.)" Here is the problem: Our bylaws list the four officers, and describes their duties and compensation.. Does this new motion improperly amends the bylaws as to 'officers' , and hence is null and void (only as to 'Officers')? Thanks.
  3. A Resolution was just passed through our Council, but it was just discovered that the dollar amount pertaining to a grant was incorrect. I feel that logically, the resolution must go back through Council with a motion to amend, but I can't find anything in Robert's Rules that specifically states that. Any info or thoughts would be appreciated.
  4. What if a meeting occurred and minutes were recorded by the council Secretary, but once complete were distributed via email to only our church Secretary. Then the president called the secretary of the council on the phone and compelled her to revise the minutes and send a revised set of minutes without any indication to any member of the council they were revised in the updated unofficial minutes to the church Secretary. This was all done before any scheduled council meeting and was done without the knowledge of any of the other council members. Does this violate Robert's Rules of Order, since it was done without anyone's knowledge other than the President, Council Secretary and Church Secretary? Thank you Pastor Darian Hybl
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