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Gary Novosielski

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  1. Sounds less like a meeting and more like a hostage situation.
  2. I concur with @Josh Martin's recommendations. It's worth noting for future reference that once a vote is begun, there is no valid parliamentary method to interrupt it, perhaps short of a fire, in which case the vote would resume as soon as the flames extinguished. The proper procedure would have been, when the chair failed to call for the Noes, to raise a "Point of Order... that a vote, once started may not be interrupted." [See RONR (12th ed.) 45:6, 45:9]
  3. Could be, but it would be subject to a demand for Division of a Question, which would split the two parts. I think the smoothest course would be to appoint the future president to VP first, and if that goes through, accept a resignation from the current president, then appoint the newly resigned president to VP. And it may be necessary to provide previous notice of the intent to fill the VP position (one or more times). I think it should be noted that one of, if not the, most important qualifications for VP is the willingness to step into the office of president on short notice should that become necessary. Apparently that was not a big consideration in electing the former VP. And by the way, there is no such thing in RONR as "interim" president. When the president leaves office early, the VP becomes president.
  4. Then, if the rules in RONR apply (which at this point is not known to any degree of certainty), the board has adopted a motion which conflicts with the bylaws, and that constitutes a continuing breach of the rules [see 23:6(a)], and is subject to a Point of Order at any time for as long as the breach continues. At least that's how it appears to me. Stay tuned for additional info.
  5. Do your bylaws grant this power to the board? RONR does not.
  6. That would have to be stated in the section on quorum. Proxies are pretty rare for boards, though.
  7. No, the executive board can only "do" things by a majority vote. (for main motions)
  8. I would not say it was advisable. And besides, at this point it would be difficult. Since the assembly apparently did not authorize the board to do this before adjourning at the last meeting that ship has sailed. And they can't authorize it before the next regular meeting without calling a special meeting, at which they might just as well approve the minutes directly. Best to just do it normally.
  9. It would begin at the point when the previous directors term should have ended, so that the staggering terms of office are preserved.
  10. I think it's particularly bad form to jerk people around like that, but I can't see where it's improper according to the rules.
  11. There's no rule against it in RONR. I'm not sure I see what the perceived conflict would be anyway. Aren't the interests of the parent body and the subordinate bodies more or less in agreement?
  12. As I understand it, an annual dues provision exists in the bylaws, and refers to the standing rules to set the amount. I don't see anything wrong with that.
  13. Yeah, that's pretty much it. I think it might be possible of if there was still enough time before the meeting that it would still be sufficient notice, but that gets confusing in its own way.
  14. Actually your society has been operating under the bylaws that were changed in 2012. You may not have been obeying them, but they were in effect from the time they were passed. So yes, you should print new copies and start following them. There's no need to vote on them again, unless you want to make additional changes.
  15. Well, depending on the organization, it may be true that they have no vote except at a membership meeting, but there could presumably be more than one per year. If he is referring to board meetings, then yes, only board members may vote at those. You may be using different terminology from RONR, for instance in political parties, executive boards are often called steering committees, even though they are not true committees. Do you have a copy of your bylaws that you can refer to? Do you have a copy of Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised 12th edition? We can refer to to sections in the Book, but can't type in the whole chapter on discipline (Ch. XX.), and it sounds like you are going to need it.
  16. Very probably, and especially if New Business is a topic on the existing agenda, but even if not. Once all the items on the agenda have been disposed of, and before the meeting adjourns, you may seek recognition to move an item of new business. Agenda items are matters that should be considered during a meeting, but that doesn't mean they're the only matters that may be considered--unless, of course, you have some custom rule that supersedes the ones in RONR.
  17. It says that committees, except in rare cases, don't have the power to act on their decisions, they only recommend action to the parent body, which is free to adopt, change, or reject the recommendations. And their recommendations (delivered in a report) are arrived at by majority vote in the committee, not by the chairman acting alone. If the chairman spends 1000 dollars without any approval at all, he should be prepared to pay it out of his own pocket. The organization is not obligated to pay for something it did not agree to spend on.
  18. If the Chair alone were given the power to appoint, that could be done outside of a meeting, and reported to the board at its next meeting, but "with the approval of the Board" means that the appointment has to be ratified at a board meeting by a majority vote. It may also be necessary to accept the resignation at the meeting if that hasn't yet been done.
  19. annual meeting, 9:20–23, 56:35, 56:63 adjourned meeting of, 9:23, 14:12 bylaw amendments at, 56:52 committees and, 50:29 elections at, 9:22, 56:35, 56:62–63 minutes of, 9:22 postponement beyond, limits on, 14:6 reports (see annual reports) subjects set by bylaws for, 9:23, 14:12, 41:20 annual reports, 9:22, 41:13 boards, 51:3, 51:20 officers, 48:18, 48:27 standing committees, 50:29, 51:3 treasurer, 48:21 [RONR 12th edition, Index]
  20. Well you can still do it with him present--without his interjecting. I he speaks without being recognized, or interjects while others have the floor he can be ejected from the meeting for breach of decorum. See 61:6 Principles Governing Discipline at Meetings.
  21. I was under the impression that you were removing it from the agenda of the Membership Meeting. Under what rule do you believe you can do that? If the membership decides that it does not have enough information, it may take steps to refer or postpone the question, but the board can't command them not to consider it, absent some atypical provisions in the bylaws.
  22. Under the rules in RONR, a board has no power to cancel a meeting of the membership at all. But since HOAs operate under additional state regulations, @Rob Elsman's advice is apt.
  23. Well you can still do it with him present--without his interjecting. I he speaks without being recognized, or interjects while others have the floor he can be ejected from the meeting for breach of decorum. See 61:6 Principles Governing Discipline at Meetings. It is the duty of the chair to keep order, and to stop him at the first hint of out-of-order behavior. So, no, I don't think it's best to "go at it."
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