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  1. Thanks for the assistance. I will get a copy of Robert's Rules of Order In Brief for my advisor , and I believe that it is the Chair's duty to rule out dilatory or improper motions under the bylaws.
  2. Dear General Board, I am President of Student Council at my high school. I am in charge of writing the bylaws (for further presentation by our Executive Board) for our Student Council, which has for its entire history lacked a governing document or officers who wanted to draw up any governing documents. Because my classmates are not familiar with Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, they have little to no knowledge of parliamentary procedure, and the teachers overseeing Student Council don't seem to care. I am additionally faced with an Executive Board that is only interested in pie-in-the-sky events, fundraising to kingdom come, and self-promotion. To put it kindly, it would probably take them a year to effectively learn RONR. Notwithstanding, I have scoured Robert's Rules for Dummies and RONR for 3 years. Therefore, I have decided to bring order that the Student Council shall operate with a barebones system of procedure closely following RONR. My question relates to writing down the Object of Student Council. Upon reading Sec. 56, page 571, ll. 7-9, it explained that "...a two-thirds vote being required to allow the introduction of a motion that falls outside of the society's object." Does this mean that with 2/3rds support, a group could talk about anything it wants? At what point of the processing of a motion would this occur (proposal, seconding, debate, etc.)? COuld it be ruled by the Chair to be a dilatory motion or otherwise inappropriate? I don't recall reading about this in Robert's Rules for Dummies! I could really use some help. I think that, while it poses a possible risk to my group's fledgling organization, it should be included in the bylaws, because it could help Student Council avoid a dictatorial Chair in the future (I have 1 year left at my school). I have included a selection of the proposed bylaws where I think it would be appropriate. Here's the excerpt of the Bylaws in question (the big paragraph isn't the problem): 2. Object (1) The object of the Student Council shall be to provide a system of government that is representative and reflective of the students; to secure the inherent rights and dignity of students; to provide a means by which the will of students may become directives and goals for West Senior and the community; to establish justice for West Senior; to encourage the adoption of democratic values throughout West Senior; to support students’ endeavors that bolster the honor of West Senior; to ameliorate the social and physical character of West Senior; to demonstrate capable, responsible leadership for West Senior; and to be transparent, accountable, and respectful of the students of West Senior. (2) By a two-thirds vote, the Student Council may proceed on a subject which is not pursuant to the provisions of Section (1). Thanks for your help. John C. Oshei yixxxon@aol.com
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