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  1. We have an upcoming special meeting to propose an increase in officer compensation. Should that motion fail, can another motion on the same topic but with different figures be made? For example, motion to increase officer compensation by $500 per month falls. Would a motion to increase officer compensation by $300 per month be in order? The original motion would be subject to amendments, etc as any other regular motion. EDIT: if this is not in order, I would appreciate any references. :I suppose the real question is does changing the proposed increase amount change the motion in a manner to satisfy this, from X-38, page 338: Thanks in advance for your help, this forum is a very valuable resource and always helpful and fast.
  2. Our Executive Board made a motion to present a proposal regarding officer compensation to our membership. A few weeks after the motion, but before the proposal could be presented to the membership, it has come to light that one portion of the proposal is not possible to implement, rendering the portion essentially null and void. Does this invalidate the rest of the proposal? Does the executive board need to re-vote on this matter before we present to the membership? Can the invalidated portion of the proposal be stricken without the board taking a vote? Thanks
  3. Thanks for the responses so far. To clarify a bit, "referral rules" are a set of procedures our union uses to refer workers to jobs. They are not standing rules, parliamentary rules, or anything like that. Think of them as operating procedures for a business entity. Yes, we could certainly (and have in the past) update and amend those procedures without suspending them. However, not all in our organization like having these procedures and would prefer to return to the time before we had these in place. I am anticipating the possibility of one of our officers moving to suspend these procedures for an overhaul (possibly as a means to essentially do away with them entirely). Politics don't you know. In any event, I am looking for the proper procedure to follow if someone moves to suspend these procedures (again, this is not a suspension of the standing rules or by-laws). My thoughts are either this must be (UN)done via a motion to rescind, or by the amendment procedure within the referral rules themselves (essentially amend the procedures to suspend them). Thanks again for the help.
  4. two years ago my Union adopted a set of "referral rules" - basically a set of rules for how we refer workers from our hiring hall. The original motion adopted or approved the referral rules, the referral rules themselves in turn set up the procedures for referrals, a governance board to oversee the rules, and procedures for amending the referral rules. Since the original adoption of these referral rules, they have been amended several times. Amendments happen after our membership approves them by a 2/3rds vote at one of our membership meetings. It has been suggested by one of our officers that we suspend these referral rules in order to overhaul them. Putting aside the federal labor law issues, what would be the proper motion to suspend our referral rules? Should this be a motion to rescind the original motion? A motion to rescind the original motion and all subsequent motions that amended the rules? Something else? Should the suspension be considered as an amendment to the referral rules and follow those procedures? Thanks for your help.
  5. When I chair our Union meetings (usually 25-30 people), and there has only been discussion on one side of a motion, I will ask if anyone wants to speak for the other side of the motion. If no one does I suggest that we proceed with the vote. I generally do not know who is on what side of an issue so I can't go back and forth.
  6. bmunroe

    Member not-in-good standing makes motion

    "Members in good standing of this <organization> shall enjoy all rights, privileges and benefits of this Constitution and By-Laws." ... "member not in good standing shall be deprived of the right to hold office, to attend meetings and to vote" "The term "in good standing," as used in this Constitution and By-Laws, shall be construed to mean that the member has fully complied with all obligations to the <organization>, not only financially but in all other regards." From a practicable standpoint, it pretty much means that they are current on their dues.
  7. I am the chair of our organization. I was absent from our last membership meeting. We had a member who is not in good standing attend the meeting and make a motion that was seconded and approved. Is this still a valid motion, and if not how do I address this at our next meeting? The particular motion was in regards to making a charitable donation. Access to the meeting was denied to other members who were not in good standing (by our Sargent-at-Arms at the door), but this member went unnoticed by the Sargent-at-Arms. Our Treasurer realized during the debate on the motion that this member was not in good standing and tried to "table" (I know that is the incorrect term) the motion on other grounds, as she did not want to embarrass the member by calling out that she was not in good standing. Our constitution denies the right to attend meetings and to vote to members not in good standing. Thanks for your help.