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  1. Thanks for your responses Richard Brown and Thomas Ralph, During this month's meeting the president was trying to decide if he could allow someone (one of the people in his caucus) to both amend their motion and motivate it. (I know that's not allowed but I wasn't going to say anything after what happened last month.) He looked at me and said, "Mary might call a point of order." I responded with, "Why bother?" Then he asked the parliamentarian who told him he couldn't do that. After the meeting I spoke with the president and again expressed my disappointment that they were unwi
  2. For several months I kept checking back with the Parliamentarian and he was not able to find anything in writing concerning the requirement for 2/3rds to add a motion to this month's agenda or a majority to add it to next months agenda. So, during last month's motion period I again raised a Point of Order, it turned into a big fiasco. Here's what was written about it in the minutes: "Motions directed to the agenda period began. The chair said after a motion is presented then there's a speaker for and a speaker against with a 50% vote. A point of order was raised by Mary A
  3. Thank you. I'll do that.
  4. I realize this is an old thread but I wonder what would be the proper way to ask the chair to give the explanation during the meeting. Would I make a Point of Order, a Point of Privilege or a Point of Information in order to ask the chair to remind members that it's unnecessary to Call the Previous Question as the chair can move directly to the vote (if there is no objection) without the question being called? Or would I have to approach the chair outside of the meeting to ask him to do that? We have a member who has become a nuisance by constantly raising his card to prematurely Call the
  5. Thank you Josh Martin. Your response is very helpful. After giving it some more thought, what I think I'll do is approach the Parliamentarian and the Secretary prior to the start of the meeting and point out that unless the agenda is adopted there is no fixed time to adjourn. Maybe that will be the incentive they'll need in order to bring it up to the Chair/President and have the agenda adopted (because nobody likes the meetings to go past 6 p.m -- well, I do because when I leave at 6 p.m. I'm stuck in rush-hour traffic for two hours). My concern is if I try to do too much in a single meet
  6. Thank you. I believe claiming that the "rules exist nowhere in the records of the organization" would be preferable to reviewing 55 years worth of minutes. The organization's constitution states: "Roberts' Rules of Order, Newly Revised, shall govern the conduct of all meetings of all bodies, except where otherwise provided in this constitution or in the by-laws." So I think I'm on solid footing.
  7. OK, so an agenda that's not adopted is just a "scrap of paper". Now, I want to take it a step further. If the meeting notice including the proposed agenda is distributed but the agenda is not adopted (not voted on), can one still make a Call for the Orders of the Day if the time for an item on the unapproved/not adopted agenda has passed? The reason I ask is that the meeting notice distributed to delegates includes: "The agenda will be as follows: Announcments President's Report Staff Director's Report Question Period (15 minutes) Motions directed to the agenda (10 minutes)" As I p
  8. Thank you all for trying to help me figure this out. Mr. Honemann is correct, I do not know when or if these special Rules of Order were adopted. I have been a delegate for 3+ years and the rule requiring 2/3 vote for a motion to be placed on this month's agenda or majority for next month's (as well as the requirement for copying and distributing the motion if over 3 lines) has been in place since then and probably for many years prior. It wasn't until recently that I realized that these rules seem to be not only in conflict with RONR for handling a motion but that they seem to be in confl
  9. Would these special rules of order need to be adopted by the assembly at each session? Does the fact that they are not adopted at the beginning of the session mean that they are not in effect during that session and a Point of Order is valid if the Chair doesn't state the question on a motion which is moved and seconded in accordance with RONR?
  10. Thank you all for your replies. Here's some additional information. Delegates receive a "letter" prior to the meeting which includes information on meeting date, time, number of delegates, agenda, special orders of business and at the bottom of the first page, this: RULES OF ORDER: 1. TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGEND OF THE CURRENT MEETING -- A motion to suspend the rules is required. IT IS NOT DEBATABLE and needs a 2/3 vote to carry. 2. TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA OF THE NEXT MEETING -- A delegate may move to place an item on the agenda at the end of the question period. One speak
  11. During our monthly Delegate Assembly I raised a Point of Order when a motion was made and the Chair explained to new Delegates that once a motion is made and seconded it requires two-thirds to be added to this month's agenda or a majority in order to be added to next month's agenda. My Point of Order was that handling motions in this manner is in conflict with RONR and it is not written in the Constitution/By-laws. My understanding of a handling of a new motion according to RONR is that the motion is made, seconded, the chair states the question and then debate begins. (I had given the Parli
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