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  1. Can you help me out with why it would apply to officers as well? 51:53 is in the section on reports of Boards and Committees. Is the wording in 48:19 about executive officers reports generally conforming to the form of committee reports coupled with 48:27 what you base that on? I would like to have firm ground from Robert's to put forth at a future meeting that all reports of officers should be submitted in writing. Do you think the ground is already there or would it be more clear if a special rule of order was adopted saying as much?
  2. Thanks, Josh. I was thinking of the wording in 48:19 Reports of Executive Officers, "In either case, the reports should generally conform to the rules as to form, substance, and disposition that govern committee reports (51)." It looks like the above quote would only apply to the President and Vice President. Why is that? Why wouldn't all officers be prescribed to follow the same procedure? Rather than record the orally rendered report verbatim would the proper practice moving forward be to insist that all reports, unless meeting the criteria of 51:60-62, be submitted in writing
  3. The Executive Session minutes were kept and approved separately. The objection voiced was on the appropriateness of including the oral report of the officer in them at all.
  4. At a Board meeting, executive session was entered into by unanimous consent to receive a report from an officer. The report was short and given verbally. No actions were taken. Executive Session was exited by unanimous consent. At the next meeting the draft of the executive session minutes were presented by the secretary with the oral report recorded verbatim. A member thought this improper and that there should be no record of the report being received. I don't have my RONR on me but I thought that if a short report was given verbally then it was recorded in the minutes verbatim. If
  5. Does anyone know if there have ever been any formal studies conducted on the effectiveness of using RONR? I am in the process of trying to have a Board of Directors that I am a part of adopt Robert's. I have brought forth all the usual reasons why RONR can be beneficial and thought that if there was a study done that it may further serve to illustrate my points. Thanks for any help.
  6. Atul, I agree and I didn't think I was conveying otherwise. Sorry for being unclear. The recommendations were moved by individual members of the respective boards. The point of order was that the Executive Board had no authority to make such a recommendation to amend.
  7. Mr. Brown - Board "A" is the Board of Elders of a church. It is not subservient to the Executive Board. There is not a separate Board of Directors. Responsibilities of the Board of Elders include, "See to it that all services are conducted in such a manner as to avoid needless disturbance and to foster an attitude conducive to worship among those in attendance." Recommendation "X" was a resolution from the Board of Elders to put out sign up sheets for Christmas Eve services as Covid has limited church capacity. The Executive Board recommended amending by adding language to incl
  8. Would the below wording be an acceptable example of how to write such a situation for the minutes? Mr. John Smith made a motion to do "X". The motion was lost for lack of a second.
  9. Board "A" adopts a resolution to recommend to the assembly that a resolution to do "X" be adopted. The Executive Board, having been informed by Board "A" of their intent to recommend adopting resolution "X", adopts a motion to recommend amending "X" to the assembly. At the meeting of the assembly Board "A" puts forth their recommendation. It is stated by the chair and a member of the Executive Board moves the recommendation to amend on behalf of the Executive Board. A member raises a point of order stating that the Executive Board has no authority to make recommendations and th
  10. Thank you for the thread reference, very helpful. My search-fu was weak.😁
  11. I have been elected to serve as a representative on a ten member Board of Directors for a private school. There are no vacancies. The bylaws do not name a parliamentary authority. At the first meeting I attended I moved a resolution which used the exact wording in RONR 12th ed. to adopt Robert's as the parliamentary authority as a special rule of order (yes, I would like it in the bylaws but they require 60 days notice to amend). After debate it was moved to postpone definitely until the next regular meeting. Does postponement have the possibility to affect the vote required for adoption?
  12. Bylaws read as follows, "The Director selected shall hold office for a term of three years and/or until a successor have been chosen. No director shall serve for more than two consecutive terms." If a director has served two consecutive terms but the body which appoints their replacement has been unable to fill the spot can the term limited Director continue to serve? My initial thought is "yes" since it says "and/or". Does the fact that if one serves less than half a term it does not count as a term be applicable? I should note this Board does not have a parliamentary authori
  13. Alex, you mad my night. Thank you, sir. I take back some of the bad things I have said about millennials.😁 Sincerely, Gen X-er 78'
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