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DR Stockley

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  1. The titles were determined at the time the organization was first chartered. It is doubtful that proposing they be changed at the 119th Annual Convention would meet with much acceptance, even if it came from somewhere higher than local post level.
  2. Oh! I did resign my position as Judge Advocate so as to free myself to exercise my full membership rights. I did then introduce a resolution for a special rule to allow the Post Judge Advocate to exercise the full rights of membership as any other member which was unanimously adopted. This I did to insure that my successor doesn't find themselves frustrated and to make it easier for the organization to find someone willing to fill the position. However, I have declined to accept reappointment to the position feeling that I can best serve as a regular member.
  3. While I'm not familiar with either of those two groups, if I'm correct in assuming that they are both auxiliary organizations of the American Legion, I would think that any prohibitions to duel memberships would be a matter covered under their national by-laws. I know that the national by-laws of our organization does not permit members from holding two elected offices at the same time. However, that is in relation to their membership in one organization and not subsidiary units.
  4. In our organization the titles to elected offices are of a quasi-military nature. Commander equates to president, Quarter Master to Treasurer and so on. In actuality, the organization is closer to a pure democracy with all members having one vote and no members vote carrying more weight than any others. Unfortunately, issue sometimes arise when carrier military retirees are elected to positions and do not fully appreciate that the title of Commander is not the same as being "In Command" of a military unit.
  5. True. Unfortunately, rank doesn't always convert to a completely democratic system.
  6. DR Stockley

    Who may propose amendments to a main motion?

    You are undoubtedly correct. For if a member is not in good standing he would not be able to attend the meetings under our By-Laws.
  7. Thank you all again for your advice. By now you have probably surmised that the organization of which I am a member is a Veterans organization. One which has existed for some 118 years. Unfortunately, at the post level most of the membership isn't particularly knowledgeable with regard to Parliamentary Law, nor are they inclined to take much stock in it if left to their own devices. A recent amendment to the National By-Laws which changed the Parliamentary Authority recognized by the organization from Demeter's to Robert's Rules has lead to an increased awareness of procedural matters. Alas! I must admit to, over the years, allowing the strict adherence to proper procedures to become somewhat lax. Thank you all again for all your advice. I will undoubtedly, be seeking more of your expertise in the future.
  8. DR Stockley

    elect a candidate by acclamation

    Our normal procedure for when a candidate is running unopposed is for a member to move that the adjutant cast one unanimous ballot for the candidate, second followed by a voice vote. If there are two or more candidates for the office, the election is handled by ballot.
  9. DR Stockley

    A member recording a meeting

    We have for many years taped the our meetings to aid the Adjutant in taking accurate minutes. Of course, this practice was approved by the membership decades ago when I was the Post Adjutant (Secretary). Of course, owing to state law all parties have to be made aware that the making of audio recordings is being done. I'm not sure of whether a member recording, either openly or clandestinely, would be permitted under that same notification in the eyes of the law. However, I suppose that any restrictions to it would have to determined with the By-Laws rather than RONR.
  10. Since your by-laws state that the Parliamentarian, usually an advisory position, it might be prudent to make a change to that rule by an amendment also.
  11. Apparently, I'll have to resign my office of Post Judge Advocate since it prohibits me from exercising my rights as a member, which I deem more useful to the organization. Of course, even as just a regular member my knowledge of the National & Post By-Laws coupled with my limited knowledge of RONR will most likely come in useful. Frankly, we've probably become a bit too lax in procedure over the years so I suppose the switch from Demeter's to Robert's will force us to get back on the relatively straight and narrow.
  12. He advised me that he already has the abbreviated version. Alas! It is not always easy to get him or the Jr & Sr Vices to read and understand as much about parliamentary procedures as I'd like. Frankly, ex-military officers and sergeants sometimes have problems understanding such things. They're too use to giving orders without parliamentary procedures getting in the way.
  13. In my opinion it would fall on the organizations By-Laws to designate the order of succession regarding who will preside in the absence of both the president and vice-president from a meeting. In my organization, the by-laws provide for it with a Sr Vice & Jr Vice.
  14. So, if I'm understanding this correctly, I, as Judge Advocate (Parliamentarian), would under RONR not be permitted to rise to a point of order, make any motions, second any motions or even engage in any discussions or debate on any motions. I would be restricted to merely awaiting for the Commander (Chair) to consult if he is unclear about any of the National, State or Post By-Laws and/or RONR. If that is correct and the presiding officer isn't well versed in the rules or is only acquainted with them as our average member, there is little point in having a parliamentarian. Frankly, it is doubtful that many of our members are willing to familiarize themselves with RONR recognize when there is a point of order to be raised.
  15. DR Stockley

    Time limits during a meeting

    Our post By-Laws limit speeches to 5 minutes for the first and 3 minutes for the second with a limit of two speeches in each debate. This I believe supersedes RONR's limit.
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