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  1. Larry J. Randle

    New Business vs. Notice of Motion

    Excellent! Good advice, makes sense. Thank you Josh.
  2. Larry J. Randle

    New Business vs. Notice of Motion

    Thank you both for chiming in here and helping me understand the differences here. Yes, what we call the "Council Procedures Bylaw" requires that all new matters for the agenda for the next Regular Council meeting be included on the agenda which is prepared and distributed 6 days in advance of the regularly scheduled meeting. As you have noted, this allows all Council members and the public to know exactly what will be considered at each meeting. I agree that this requirement does meet the strategy of providing for open, accountable government. The Bylaw also states that if there is an emergent issue that a Council member wants to have considered at a Regular Council meeting that is not on the agenda, with a 2/3 vote in support of considering that emergent issue, it can then be considered. If there is not a 2/3 vote supporting the addition of the late item, then that member can make a Notice of Motion to ensure it makes it onto the following Council meeting agenda. With these rules in the Bylaw, do you think it is still appropriate for the Chair to ask if there is any new business (or as he always, asks, " are there any additions to the agenda?") at each Regular Council meeting?
  3. Larry J. Randle

    New Business vs. Notice of Motion

    I work for a municipal government with an assembly of 7 elected officials. The Procedure Bylaw covers off "Notice of Motion" by explaining how a member may provide "Notice" for the next regularly scheduled session. P. 360 lines 13-23 in RONR indicate after any unfinished business has been dealt with, it is acceptable for the Chair to ask whether there is any new business. This would seem to pretty much defeat the purpose of having a member provide a Notice of Motion for the next session other than reducing the vote to adopt such motion from 2/3 (without notice) to a majority vote (with notice). Am I understanding this correctly? Also, when the opportunity for new business is presented and a member makes a motion, is it a 2/3 vote that is required to adopt an original main motion because no notice was previously given? Thank you.
  4. Larry J. Randle

    Next meeting in a session

    The time for the next meeting of a current session may not be scheduled by which one of the following? 1) through a program adopted at the beginning of a convention; 2) by a motion adopted at the present meeting; 3) at the call of the chair if provision has been made; 4) by a specification in the privileged motion to adjourn. Thanks in advance for clarifying.
  5. Larry J. Randle

    Adjourn at a future time

    Is a motion to adjourn at a future time: 1) a privileged motion 2) not debatable, or 3) not amendable? Which is the correct answer please?
  6. Larry J. Randle

    Who can move "Reconsider"?

    Q. #369: If a motion was adopted by: A. Unanimous consent, any member qualifies to move to reconsider it. B. Ballot, a member who voted with the prevailing side must be willing to waive secrecy of his ballot in order to move to reconsider. The answer key indicates that "B" is the only correct answer but my interpretation is that both of these answers are correct, though only one (B) is considered to be the correct answer. I really don't want this to mess me up when I'm writing the Part 2 exam. Thanks.
  7. Larry J. Randle

    Who can move "Reconsider"?

    RONR, p. 316 lines 1-6 state two things: 1) that a member who voted by ballot with the prevailing side may move to reconsider if he is willing to waive the secrecy of his ballot, and 2) if the motion to be reconsidered was adopted by unanimous consent, all members present at the time qualify to move to reconsider. However, in the Study Guide for NAP Registration, p. 64, question #369 it indicates that only #1 above is correct and therefore, #2 as I have noted it above, must be incorrect. The way I read RONR, it is also possible for someone to move to reconsider if they were present when the motion being reconsidered was adopted by unanimous consent. Is there a technical aspect of this I am missing? I need to know as I am planning to write the Part 2 Registration exam in a few weeks. Thanks in advance for clarifying.
  8. I am preparing for the Part 2 exam to earn my RP. I have ParlQuest but have also heard that the 30-day practice exams from NAP are also helpful. Has anyone recently done the Part 2 exam and used both the Part 2 Practice exam and ParlQuest to prepare and if so, is there really any value in acquiring the Part 2 practice exam from NAP if I already have ParlQuest? Doesn't ParlQuest essentially provide multiple practice exams just as the Part 2 practice exam from NAP does or is there an additional advantage to utilizing the Practice exams from NAP in conjunction with ParlQuest? Thanks.
  9. Larry J. Randle

    Rescind something previously adopted

    Thanks for helping out Josh and Richard. This is from the In Order Study Guide for the NAP Registration Examination - hard copy. It is Question #349 and the reference in RONR is p. 305 line 10-12. I think there is an error in the Study Guide as it definitely indicates the answer is B which says " it can only be applied to a main motion which has been defeated. This answer sheet must be incorrect but I'll feel even more confident about it if someone agrees with me.
  10. To rescind something previously adopted, it can only be applied to which of the following?: 1. A main motion which has been adopted. or 2. A main motion which has been defeated? The NAP Study Guide for Registration says it's #2 but this seems counter-intuitive to me - I think the answer can only apply to something which has been previously adopted, hence the motion "to rescind something previously adopted." Is the answer sheet in the study guide incorrect or am I?
  11. I've come across it a few times in RONR where it says a motion is adopted with "a majority vote with notice" or a "majority vote of the entire membership." I'm unclear on the what the difference is, especially as it may apply to the Council of only 7 members that I work for. Can someone please clarify? Thanks!
  12. Larry J. Randle

    Postpone to a Certain Time

    I'm struggling a bit with what is surely a straightforward matter for experienced parliamentarians: RONR 11th Edition p. 179 line 34 states that "...action on a pending question can be put off...until after a certain event." For example, this could mean that a motion is adopted stating that the assembly won't decide whether to proceed with a specific project until after they hear whether their grant application for funding for the project is successful, which will be at some unknown time in the near future (eg. after a certain event). The assembly I work for holds regular meetings on the first and third Thursdays of each month. In what appears to me to conflict with the adopted motion above is p. 183 lines 11-17 which I interpret to mean that the question cannot be postponed until after a "certain event," because the assembly holds regular meetings more frequently than quarterly intervals, and therefore the question must be dealt with at the next regular meeting. Can someone please clarify and set me on the right track here? Thank you.
  13. Larry J. Randle

    Nola's Daily Doses - references

    Okay thanks very much for these tips Setemu.
  14. Larry J. Randle

    Nola's Daily Doses - references

    Thank you both. I still have no idea where the references are!
  15. Larry J. Randle

    Nola's Daily Doses - references

    I am studying for the five RP exams and recently acquired the hard copy Study Guide for NAP Registration Exam, ParlQuest and Nola's Daily Doses. In Nola's Daily Doses, in the section titled Part II: Motions and Related Procedures, starting with #1 for example it makes reference to (pp. II, 1-2) and also states "...locate references on page B-1." It also states "Check answers on page C-1." Similar references are made throughout the document. Can someone who is familiar with these references that I have highlighted in red above please guide me to where I can actually find them? I have come up empty so far. Thank you.