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George Mervosh

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  1. No. If the motion passed and is still applicable it can be rescinded or amended. See RONR (12th ed.) §35 for full details. If the motion was defeated it can simply be made again at any new session. See RONR (12th ed.), §38
  2. RONR notes in 9:24 that - "A meeting enters into executive session only when required by rule or established custom, or upon the adoption of a motion to do so." So if the first two methods (rule or established custom) are not applicable to this board, a motion is going to be necessary.
  3. No. This question was already answered here https://robertsrules.forumflash.com/topic/40942-motions/
  4. The attorney for this board should be consulted, but I can't see why, at least under the rules in RONR, the meeting cannot be opened and immediately enter into executive session before they move to the public portion of the meeting. It is quite commonly done in my neck of the woods, but again, the board's attorney should be consulted to be sure they are in compliance with any applicable procedural rules that directly apply to them.
  5. Absolutely not. The assembly itself may adopt a motion to postpone the pending motion until the next meeting, assuming the next meeting is within a quarterly time interval. Also see https://robertsrules.com/frequently-asked-questions/#faqs FAQ#12 . The motion to lay on the table is not the proper motion to postpone something until the next meeting.
  6. Just address all of your remarks, including any thanks you care to give, to the chair instead of members directly and you will be just fine.
  7. Can we start here? Is this type of voting expressly authorized by the association's bylaws?
  8. Articles and Sections can indeed be renumbered. See RONR (12th ed.), 57:18-19
  9. Nothing in RONR would compel them to abstain or even suggest that they should abstain from voting, based on these facts.
  10. How one becomes a member of an organization is entirely controlled by the bylaws. You will have to look there for an answer.
  11. "If no member seconds the motion, the chair must be sure that all have heard it before proceeding to other business. In such a case the chair normally asks, “Is there a second to the motion?” In a large hall he may repeat the motion before doing so. Or, if a resolution was submitted in writing and read by the chair or the secretary rather than by the mover (as described in 4:5), the chair may say, “Miss A has moved the adoption of the resolution just read. Is there a second to the resolution?”; or, if the text of the resolution has been distributed to the members in advance and was moved without being read, the chair may say, for example, “Miss A has moved the adoption of the resolution relating to…, as printed. Is there a second to the resolution?” If there still is no second, the chair says, “The motion [or “resolution”] is not seconded”; or, “Since there is no second, the motion is not before this meeting.” Then he immediately says, “The next item of business is…”; or, if appropriate, “Is there any further business?” RONR (12th ed.), 4:10 So there is no need to ask 3 times and the use of the gavel should be avoided.
  12. No. According to your facts, this is not a regular or properly called meeting, so it doesn't matter if all members are present. Absolutely nothing adopted in such a meeting will be valid as it is a fundamental principal of parliamentary law that business may only be transacted at a regular or properly called meeting. This is not about a rule protecting absentees.
  13. Can we just follow up on this for a minute? Did the membership order the committee to prepare a proposed revision? "Consideration of a revision of the bylaws is in order only when prepared by a committee that has been properly authorized to draft it either by the membership or by an executive board that has the power to refer such matters to a committee." RONR (12th ed.), 57:5 and also see 57:5 n2.
  14. Can you provide more information. First, are you a member of the assembly that was meeting? For example, if it was a board meeting, are you a member of the board? If it was a membership meeting, are you a member of the group. Also, can you tell us exactly why you were denied the right to participate?
  15. I do not think the membership can delegate their authority regarding spelling changes, so they will need to handle that. See RONR (12th ed.), 57:18-19, for things that may be delegated by the membership.
  16. I agree with Mr. Martin. No fundamental principle of parliamentary law can be suspended even when all members are present. Aside from the fundamental principle that business can only be transacted at a regular or properly called meeting, which we are talking about here, do you think any of the others RONR mentions in 25:9 can be suspended even with all members present?
  17. This is always the case in a convention of delegates. See RONR (12th ed.), 59:22-24 for full details. This is from the first sentence in 59:22 - " Before the Credentials Committee report is adopted, since the membership has not been established, the only motions that are in order are those related to its consideration or to the conduct of the meeting before its adoption, as well as those that are in order in the absence of a quorum (40:6–8)."
  18. Maybe Dougmeister can add some facts here. My reading of the title along with the original post led me to believe no motion will be made and no vote will be conducted. So perhaps he can explain who is doing this presentation, why, and what happens next after the presentation has concluded. Will there be a motion and vote at a subsequent meeting?
  19. They take over immediately unless they bylaws say otherwise. "An officer-elect takes possession of his office immediately upon his election's becoming final, unless the bylaws or other rules specify a later time (see 56:27). If a formal installation ceremony is prescribed, failure to hold it does not affect the time at which the new officers assume office.." RONR (12th ed.), 46:47
  20. No I don't they can go that far without bylaw authorization.
  21. Not unless the bylaws allow it. "As a general principle, a board cannot delegate its authority—that is, it cannot empower a subordinate group to act independently in its name—except as may be authorized by the bylaws (of the society) or other instrument under which the board is constituted; but any board can appoint committees to work under its supervision or according to its specific instructions. Such committees of the board always report to the board." RONR (12th ed.), 49:12
  22. That link is to the 4th Edition of Robert's Rules of Order published in 1915, that's why. This is the link to get the 12th edition. https://robertsrules.com/books/newly-revised-12th-edition/
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