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George Mervosh

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  1. "The personal approval of a proposed action obtained separately by telephone, by individual interviews, or in writing, even from every member of the board, is not the approval of the board, since the members lacked the opportunity to mutually debate and decide the matter as a deliberative body. If action is taken on such a basis, it must be ratified (pp. 124–25) at a regular or properly called board meeting in order to become an official act of the board. " RONR (11th ed.), p. 487 Although the full board need not be present at a subsequent regular or properly called meeting, if any action is taken based on the phone vote and it's not ratified, you could have a big problem.
  2. See your other thread https://robertsrules.forumflash.com/topic/33797-excutive-committee-vs-execcutive-board/ and perhaps pp. 576-578 in RONR (11th ed.)
  3. I have no idea it it's appropriate. I suppose it depends on what is proposed to be corrected. Here is the rule - "If the existence of an error or material omission in the minutes becomes reasonably established after their approval—even many years later—the minutes can then be corrected by means of the motion to Amend Something Previously Adopted (35), which requires a two-thirds vote, or a majority vote with notice, or the vote of a majority of the entire membership, or unanimous consent. " RONR (11th ed.), p. 475 71 years later is many years later, for sure.
  4. See RONR (11th ed.), pp. 485-486 Actually start at the bottom of p. 484 Bodies Subordinate to a Board
  5. Yes, but in your first post, the time of the meeting would be a Standing Rule, and the length of speeches is a Special Rule of Order, so it would be wise to familiarize yourself with all of the details of both. See RONR (11th ed.), pp. 15-18.
  6. Certainly. I was simply agreeing with the last sentence of Dr. Kapur's first post.
  7. Sure, but probably not in the motion itself, as was noted earlier. The report itself is not adopted. A motion to adopt the recommendations contained in the report is what's voted on. If the motion was made to adopt the recommendations, and the assembly wanted more time to consider the information provided in the full report, it could have adopted a motion to postpone the matter until the next regular meeting, assuming that the next regular meeting occurs within a quarterly time interval. RONR has no rule against providing information to members in advance of a meeting and in some cases it's probably a good idea.
  8. "RULE AGAINST EXPLANATION BY MEMBERS DURING VOTING. A member has no right to "explain his vote" during voting, which would be the same as debate at such a time. " RONR (11th ed.), p. 408 This would, of course, include explaining why you are abstaining.
  9. Try §48. MINUTES AND REPORTS OF OFFICER beginning on p. 468 in RONR (11th ed.) with the Form of The Minutes example on pp. 472-473 which incorporate many of the earlier shown rules.
  10. Yes, it's far too late now from what you've posted. See RONR (11th ed.), p. 214. The motion can be made again at any regular or properly called meeting. Also, it appears the motion to lay on the table is not being properly used. See http://www.robertsrules.com/faq.html#12
  11. No. If the original motion was not adopted it can be made anew by any member at any subsequent session. RONR (11th ed.), p. 336ff If the motion in question was adopted, any member may move to rescind or amend that motion provided that it is still applicable. See RONR (11th ed.), p. 305ff
  12. Nosey, could you answer Zev's question with a yes or no answer?
  13. Since no other business is going on and he's fully involved in the proceedings my opinion of it is that I don't see a need for anyone else to take the chair.
  14. Is there any other business being conducted while he was doing those things?
  15. Ugh. Maybe I should be more disagreeable with myself. Or fix my eyeglass prescription since it drops words.
  16. Maybe, but the previously cited passage uses that exact phrase. I omitted that part completely and Dr. Kapur already followed up and I agree with him, so you're not disagreeing with me at all, unless you think I'm wrong in saying "The motion did not achieve the required vote to pass". Maybe you're just trying to be disagreeable today.
  17. The motion did not achieve the required vote to pass: "Voting requirements based on the number of members present—a majority of those present, two thirds of those present, etc.—while possible, are generally undesirable. Since an abstention in such cases has the same effect as a negative vote, these bases deny members the right to maintain a neutral position by abstaining. For the same reason, members present who fail to vote through indifference rather than through deliberate neutrality may affect the result negatively. When such a vote is required, however, the chair must count those present immediately after the affirmative vote is taken, before any change can take place in attendance. (See p. 45, ll. 4–18.)" RONR (11th ed.), p. 403
  18. Nothing can be done without a quorum present at a regular or properly called meeting. See http://www.robertsrules.com/faq.html#20
  19. I don't think this is anything other than a procedural rule regarding a chair pro tem, as Dr. Kapur noted earlier and I see nothing in the facts presented which would invalidate and entire meeting.
  20. Thanks and thanks to the others. I thought about this type of example, it's just that the couple of times I've seen it it was included in the motion to accept the resignation. Makes sense.
  21. Can someone post a real life example of a proper amendment to the motion to grant a member's request to be excused from a duty? I've just never seen it real life.
  22. I think Dr. Stackpole would agree that he can only do that prior to the chair stating the question on the acceptance of the request, but not after it's placed before the board, by the chair.
  23. Assuming the board has the power to accept resignations of its members, if the member offers his resignation to effective on a certain date, the board can either accept or reject that offer, but it cannot accept something that was not offered.
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