George Mervosh

Any member may move to take the vote by ballot. I requires a majority vote to adopt.

If the object is as stated in Mr. MIller's first sentence, then: "When the object is to adopt a motion without debate or amendment, the form is: MEMBER A (obtaining the floor): I move to suspend the rules and adopt [or "agree to"] the following resolution: "Resolved, That ..." (Second.) If such a motion does not receive the required two-thirds vote, the main motion can be taken up only in the normal way." RONR (11th ed.), pp. 266-67.

He need not repeat the name of the maker of the motion. If the Secretary, for whatever reason, didn't catch the name or doesn't know the name he should provide the Secretary with that information since the name of the maker of the main motion is recorded in the minutes.

I don't know if the salary should be listed but I know you probably should not have put someone's real name into your question on a public message board.

Maybe you should add on to your existing thread on this matter. It seems like the same issues/question. https://robertsrules.forumflash.com/topic/32856-nominations/

Thanks to Dr. Kapur. My RONRIB is a tad dusty on a shelf somewhere. Sad!

I must disagree with Dr. Stackpole as I think he misread the initial set of facts. Trust wasn't changed. Fund was changed to account. The word large was proposed to appear in the exact same spot. It should have been ruled out of order, yes. "A main motion, or a motion for the same amendment to a given motion, cannot be renewed at the same session unless there is a change in wording or circumstances sufficient to present substantially a new question, in which case this becomes technically a different motion." RONR (11th ed.), p. 338

No, and no rule in RONR requires him to relinquish any of his rights in reference to the proceedings.

Which is done through a proper disciplinary process, not a motion to censure. I know Mr. Brown knows this but David S might want to be clear on this.

I think the assembly, going on record as expressing their displeasure over something by adopting a motion of censure, remains in effect, as their position, until the motion is rescinded or amended by a friendlier assembly, yes.

If the rules in RONR apply, an adopted motion to censure a member does not remove any of their membership rights, including the right to vote. The adopted motion remains in effect until it is rescinded or amended at a later time.

Even if he chooses not to vote, 3-3 doesn't cut it and he would not be removed.

Picking up on Mr. Harrison's comments: ""A member of an assembly who acts as its parliamentarian has the same duty as the presiding officer to maintain a position of impartiality, and therefore does not make motions, participate in debate, or vote on any question except in the case of a ballot vote." RONR (11th ed.), p. 467. Therefore it might not be a bad idea to have someone else present the report if he's the chairman of the nominating committee.

The question mentions it and I don't have any issue with their answer.

The nominating committee may nominate its own members. "Members of the nominating committee are not barred from becoming nominees for office themselves. To make such a requirement would mean, first, that service on the nominating committee carried a penalty by depriving its members of one of their privileges; and second, that appointment or election to the nominating committee could be used to prevent a member from becoming a nominee. " RONR (11th ed.), p. 433

1) The qualifications and/or restrictions on who can hold office are to be placed in these bylaws which are to be adopted. 2) If I understand your scenario, this will be done in meeting #4 and missing meetings 2 and 3 won't affect their eligibility to vote. But they have to be enrolled as members in meeting #4 to vote after the bylaws are adopted. "RECESS TO ENROLL MEMBERS. After the adoption of the bylaws, only those who join the society are entitled to vote in further proceedings. At this point, therefore, the meeting recesses to enroll initial members. Immediate admission to membership is contingent upon signing a permanent record sheet provided in advance by the secretary pro tem— to be filed with the original papers of the organization. This signature constitutes agreement to abide by the bylaws, and is a commitment to prompt payment of the initiation fee (if there is one) and dues for the first year or other period prescribed by the bylaws. Persons thus signing become "charter members."* The secretary pro tem should record and give receipt for payments received from members until the treasurer is elected and takes office." RONR (11th ed.), pp. 559-560 After this is done, the recess should end and the elections can take place. "READING OF THE ROLL AND ELECTION OF PERMANENT OFFICERS. After the recess the chairman pro tem calls for the reading of the roll of members, and the secretary pro tem does so. The chair then says, "The next business in order is the nomination and election of the permanent officers as prescribed in the bylaws." The nomination and election processes are as described in 46, the election being by ballot if the bylaws so prescribe, which they usually should. The members for whom one can vote are not limited to nominees, since each member is free to vote for any member who is not made ineligible by the bylaws. After the election is completed, the chair declares the results. Unless a proviso attached to the bylaws (pp. 597–98) prescribes otherwise, the newly elected officers immediately replace the temporary ones." RONR (11th ed.), p. 560 " "

No rule in RONR would prohibit it as long as the proper procedures are followed.

As a practical matter, if there's no way to help without wasting too much time, the chair can demand any motion be put in writing. The chair will not be obliged to sit next to the guy and help him write it up.

I don't think it's the same set of facts at all.

I've never been fond of the running/elected distinction, generally, as RONR notes, "There is a presumption that nothing has been placed in the bylaws without some reason for it." RONR (11th ed), p. 589-90. I can't fathom a society that would say "nope, you can't run for office unless you meet these criteria............but sure, you can be elected to that same office without meeting them." But as Mr. Brown notes, exact language usually helps answer these questions.

If you do discuss it, it might not be a bad idea for the assembly to agree to enter into executive session. It puts a layer of secrecy over the discussions. See RONR (11th ed.), pp. 95-96

Requirement/restrictions for holding an office are properly found in the bylaws, yes, although we don't provide suggested bylaw language here.

Since you'll be scouring your bylaws to get more information, please note: "The power to appoint or elect persons to any office or board carries with it the power to accept their resignations, and also the power to fill any vacancy occurring in it, unless the bylaws expressly provide otherwise. In the case of a society whose bylaws confer upon its executive board full power and authority over the society's affairs between meetings of the society's assembly (as in the example on p. 578, ll. 11–15) without reserving to the society itself the exclusive right to fill vacancies, the executive board is empowered to accept resignations and fill vacancies between meetings of the society's assembly. For particular vacancies, see page 457, lines 22–30 (president-elect), page 458, lines 7–18, and page 575, lines 6–17 (president and vice-presidents). See also page 177 (vacancies in a committee). Notice of filling a vacancy in an office (including a vacancy in an executive board or executive committee) must always be given to the members of the body that will elect the person to fill it, unless the bylaws or special rules of order clearly provide otherwise." RONR (11th ed.), pp. 467-68

If you want your head to spin further on this, Mr. Lages, read this thread and the two or three others that were linked to inside of this. https://robertsrules.forumflash.com/topic/30033-does-ordering-a-recount-have-other-effects/?tab=comments#comment-173768

Not if he has declared it adjourned.