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  1. That's because most of the Board members don't understand RONR. They really mean only the Main Motions that are listed on the agenda. Some even want to amend the Bylaw that defines RONR as their parliamentary authority because they screw-up the meetings by allowing to many amendments to the main motions and nobody knows enough to call a point of order! This last time the Chair worked the Main Motion back down from a Tertiary amendment to the approval of the Primary amendment but never voted on the Main motion!!!! They want the Bylaw to say RONR "may" be.... instead of "shall" be the parli
  2. "At least seven (7) days prior to all Board meetings, excluding Executive and Special Sessions, an agenda, subject to amendment, shall be posted in XXXX Facilities and/or on the XXXX website (www.xxxx.org). Motions made in Board meetings, excluding Executive and Special Sessions, shall be read and passed a minimum of three times before finalized and acted upon unless readings are waived by a two-thirds (2/3) majority of the Board (6)."
  3. Yes it does! "Motions made in Board meetings, excluding Executive and Special Sessions, shall be read and passed a minimum of three times before finalized and acted upon unless readings are waived by a two-thirds (2/3) majority of the Board (6)." The hard part to understand is what is and what isn't a Special Rule of Order. I understand that if it's in the Bylaws it's a Bylaw, but does, or did, it really belong there in the first place? I tend to view RONR as a box of basic rules. If you want to accomplish something using rules outside that box but it still accomplishes the same res
  4. I mean if RONR says you only require one vote to pass a motion but now you make a rule to supersede that so that you require 3 consecutive votes, why isn't that a Special Rule of Order? Why is allowing non-members to comment when they are not part of the assembly not a Special Rule of Order when RONR says otherwise?
  5. These are the corporate bylaws. The "Meetings of the Board" portion is where the three reading and other variations I mentioned were listed. This is the portion of RONR I just can't wrap my head around! The way I interpret RONR (which is obviously wrong) is that Robert's Rules specifies the basic set of guiding rules. Any alteration of those rules that have already been established in RONR becomes a Special Rule of Order!?!? Another words, if you can't find the rule you want or the way you want use it in the text of RONR then you create a Special Rule of Order!?!? Standing Rules is a
  6. Our Board seems to have many rules in their Bylaws that I suspect should actually be Special Rules of Order. Here's some examples: (RONR is the parliamentary authority) The Boards Bylaws requires a Main Motion to be read and approved at 3 consecutive meetings before it's considered passed. Isn't this a Special Rule of Order? The Board Bylaws also include a method of waiving the 3 readings for an emergency or immediate implementation. Shouldn't that be done by simply Suspending the Rules of the 3 reading requirement? Should that be another Special Rule of Order or is it something that
  7. So where does that leave the Primary amendment that was approved? Even though the whole procedure was incorrectly processed and the Chair allowed it to happen, is it a done-deal and the motion can actually go into effect? The motion was about a date to reopen amongst all this virus stuff. The main motion had one date and the primary amendment had another, which was approved.
  8. Way crazy stuff just happened at a Board meeting. Here's how it went... A member made the main motion Another member made a primary amendment Another member made a secondary amendment The same member who made the secondary amendment amended his amendment. The Chair didn't call it Out of Order. The Chair worked back down the ladder to the main motion when another member made a primary amendment. A vote was taken on the primary amendment and the motion passed. After the primary amendment passed, the member who made the original main motion withdrew her motion on her
  9. Is there a simple answer or a specific defining structure that determines the difference between an Agenda and an Order of Business?
  10. You are 100% correct. The motion should have been to Postpone but somebody listed it on the next meetings Agenda anyway.
  11. I'm kinda under the impression that if a motion is Tabled, it needs to be Taken from the Table with a motion and is not necessarily required to be put on the agenda of the next meeting whereas a motion to Postpone would automatically be listed on the next meetings Agenda as a motion that must be addressed. Is it proper to list a Tabled Motion in an Agenda or is it a no-no? I don't believe there are any rules prohibiting it to be listed on the agenda but if there, it makes it a little harder to avoid if you really just wanted the motion to die!
  12. To kinda clarify; doesn't the approval of a Primary Motion now make it the new Main Motion. If the Primary Motion is approved the Main Motion will be voted on using the exact wording of the approved Primary Motion? Why doesn't an approved Secondary Amendment replace the Primary Amendment?
  13. If a Secondary Amendment is "approved" does that eliminate the need to vote on the Primary Amendment because the Secondary Motion replaces the Primary Amendment? If a Primary Amendment is "approved" does that eliminate the need to vote on the Main motion because the Secondary Motion replaces the original Main Motion?
  14. It's my understanding that if the motion to "Take from Table" is made it must be voted on and approved before the original motion can be, once again, presented to the assembly ( see 34:2 & t30, 94). Is this correct? If the motion to "Take from the Table" is "approved" can a motion to "Postpone Indefinitely" be immediately made to kill it?
  15. Yes, with all due respect, I too would appreciate a little more clarification! Example please!
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