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So it would be a 'main motion' not an 'incidental main motion', right? Otherwise, you would have written 'incidental main motion' in 21:14 I don't have a clear picture of the Venn diagram for 'main motions', 'incidental motions' and ' incidental main motions'. Are they 3 separate circles or two circles that overlap?

Suppose that an agenda is adopted that states that the meeting will be adjourned at 3pm. The meeting finishes up business at 1pm. Then a motion is made that is stated as “I move to adjourn.” Does this motion IMPLICITLY imply that the meeting is adjourned ‘as soon as the motion passes’ and that the time at which the motion passes is some future time? IOW, the motion really means to reasonable people “I move to adjourn NOW, not at 3pm.” Is this a motion to amend something previously adopted or a motion to adjourn? If it’s a motion to adjourn, is it a privileged motion or an incidental main motion? What vote count is required for adoption?

Suppose the main motion is: Move to donate $100 to Charity A. During debate an amendment motion is made: Move to strike ‘Charity A’ and insert ‘Charity B’. Consider two situations: 1. amendment passes 2. amendment fails During the main motion discussion, after the amendment passes or fails, another amendment motion is made that says: Move to strike ‘Charity A’ and insert ‘Charity C’. or Move to strike ‘Charity B’ and insert ‘Charity C’. depending on whether the first amendment passed or failed. Is this motion is out of order because it raises a question already decided? see 12:13 “….so long as they do not again raise questions already decided during the same session.” Does a motion to reconsider the original amendment need to be made in order to ‘try out Charity C’ or can the original amendment be changed to a fill-in the blank?

With all due respect for your expertise on this subject matter, what you have said in this thread may not make sense in the real world. Let's say the 4 options were voted on in some order and none of them got a majority. Say it was all 5-5 for each one of them. You are saying that not one of them can be considered 'for other suggestions' because they have been 'rejected' by the assembly. In reality, they are the top 4 choices for this fill-in-the-blank. IOW, you are saying that the assembly should consider choices 5, 6 and 7, (E, F & G)when the assembly knows and agrees that choices 1-4 (A-D) are the better choices.

So what do you do if none of the options get a majority?

Is a counted vote by raising hands with a stipulation that you can only vote yes for one of the options equivalent to a ballot or roll-call vote, where the ballot or roll-call vote means you vote for a particular option?

What happens if the noes have it for A, B, C and D?

I must be missing something here. What do you mean by 'rejected'? For example, if every member votes yea or nay for each option and none of them get a majority, then you can't revote or throw out the lowest one?

Is it implicit that every member can vote - yea or nay - for each and every option? Or is it implicit that each member can only vote yea on only one of the options?

Suppose you have four options for a blank in some motion. Only one option can be selected to fill the blank. When the vote is taken- Can every member vote on every option, including voting yes on several of the options? eg OR A 3-7 A 7-3 B 5-5 B 5-5 C 4-6 C 6-4 D 2-8 D 8-2 Can every member vote yes for only one of the options? (this would imply a no vote for the options they do not want) eg A 2-8 B 3-7 C 1-9 D 4-6 Total yes = 10 = # members voting If no option gets a majority, then what do you do? If more than one option gets a majority, then what do you do? How & when does that rule that the first option to obtain a majority wins apply?

Does “is out of order when another has the floor” mean that the maker MUST obtain the floor first or can they speak when no one has been assigned the floor? IOW say someone pipes up and says “I move to donate $100.00 to the local Boys and Girls Club” during a ‘lull’ (no business pending) without ever saying ‘Mr. Chair?’ and waiting to be recognized. Would that be in order? Or say someone shouts out “I call the question” after one speaker has stopped debating and no one else has been given the floor. Would that be in order? 3:30-3:31 Possible Answers: A. Yes – no one has the floor so it is in order B. No – the maker has not been recognized by the chair C. maybe – If the motion is seconded, the chair states the motion, no one brings up a point of order and continues on…. then that is ok. D. something else So why doesn’t RONR say ‘must obtain the floor’ instead of the more ambiguous “is out of order when another has the floor”