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  1. Last year (2022) we created a sub-committee of the golf committee to look at and recommend changes to our tee time system. It was a sub-committee of the golf committee and was compromised of members of the golf committee. Changes were recommended to the golf committee, which is a subordinate of the board, and then were brought to the Master Board for a vote. Some of the changes were implemented and some were not. This year (2023) the President of the board created a new ad-hoc committee to study the impact of the changes. It was chaired by a member of the board and was comprised of members of the community, not just the golf committee.
  2. Thanks for your reply. To answer your question, it is the newly created ad-hoc committee that wants to send out the survey, the golf committee is the standing committee. The golf committee at their last meeting wanted to shut the survey down claiming that the survey must go through their committee before it can be sent out.
  3. I live in a bundled golf community. Our Master Board consists of 9 elected members. Outside of the President, most members are the chairperson of a standing committee. Recently, an ad-hoc committee was established by the President, voted on by the board, and is chaired by a Master Board member, to study the results of some changes to our tee time system. This committee developed a survey that they wish to send to the membership of the community. The golf committee chair claims that the Golf Committee has the right to refuse to send the survey out. The question is, can one committee override another committee? I can understand if it was created as a sub-committee of the golf committee, but in this case it was not. Thanks, Tom
  4. I want to thank everyone for taking their time and for their comments. I have written a letter to the Master Board outlining my thoughts, I stayed away from declaring that the vote was improper as I don't feel that it was based on what I heard here. I learned a lot from these conversations. -Tom
  5. Thanks for the input so far. I will give you some detail as to the situation. I think I have learned a little from what has been posted here and I think I can post a better reply. I live in a gated community is SW Florida with a golf course. We use a system called Chelsea to assign tee times to the members. The system has been altered over the years and there are a lot of complaints during the season, from Jan 1st to Mar 31st of each year. We created a sub-committee of the Golf Committee called Chelsea, I was the chairman of that committee and after several public meetings I held a meeting to make motions to recommend changes to the Chelsea system to the Golf Committee. It was duly noted in the agenda that motions would be made. I made 13 different motions, all starting with we recommend to the Golf committee to recommend to the Master Board the following change to our rules and regulations. I would then state which rule was to be changed and we voted on the 13 motions. Some passed, some did not. The Golf Committee chair then called a special meeting of the golf committee. Unfortunately, he decided to hold the meeting on a date that I was not present and had no availability to connect to the meeting via Zoom. He then presented 2 motions to the golf committee, taking one of the motions I made and lumped the other 6 motions that had passed into 1 motion. Both motions passed. The Master Board then took up the motions but decided to vote individually on the 7 items. The vote was different than what had been passed by the golf committee. At the next regular golf committee meeting, the agenda item Old Business simply stated: Recommended changes to the Chelsea system. When we got to that item someone made the Motion to ask the Master Board to re-vote on 1 of the items and that motion did not have a second so was not voted on. Then another person made a motion to have the Master Board re-vote on 3 items and that had a second and was passed. In our club, if you wish to speak at a meeting, you must in writing notify the General Manager or Club President at least 48 in advance of the meeting and which topic on the agenda you wish to speak. Our rules also state that the agenda for a meeting must be posted at least 48 hours prior to the meeting, unless $$ are involved and then agenda must be posted 14 days in advance. I do not know exactly when the agenda came out for the Golf Committee meeting but will attempt to find that out. I do not believe that proper notice was given to the community and therefore the motion in the Golf Committee is improper and should not be considered by the Master Board. Hopefully, I am correct! -Tom
  6. Thanks for the reply. I am looking for reason why the Master Board would not be able to do as requested. However, if there are also reasons why the sub-committee would not be able to ask the Master Board, I would be happy to hear those reasons. If you haven't guessed, I am the lone dissenter on the sub-committee who doesn't want this to go to a vote! I am happy with what the Master Board previously voted.
  7. The Master Board at our community recently voted on several issues. 2 weeks later at a sub- committee meeting, it was voted to ask the Master Board to revisit 3 of the items and vote again. It was not a unanimous decision but passed. What would be the reasons why they could not do that? Our rules state that anyone who wants to speak at a Master Board meeting on an agenda topic must submit in writing their request to either the General Manager or the President 48 prior to the start of the meeting and may have 3 minutes to speak. As of today, the minutes of the sub-committee have not been posted.
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