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  1. Are there provisions in place for the Board to conduct business requiring a vote by the members via electronic mail methods.
  2. Our current President, during our Unit meeting, slid a piece of paper to her second vice requesting that she read the page. On the page was our President's formal request for our Unit to "endorse" her for Department. She asked, verbally for support, a few said yes, many stayed quiet not supporting her but also not wanting to say no. As President should she not have excused herself from the room, or better requested secret ballot? Several officers were absent from the meeting and would like to know if it is possible to get the "endorsement" overturned.
  3. Guest

    Voting Reconsideration

    How long do you have to reconsider a topic or issue that has been voted on.
  4. Guest

    Voting Reconsideration

    How long do you have to reconsider a topic or issue that has been voted on.
  5. Is there a rule when a board member does not declare a conflict of interest? Does not vote on motion put forward, post vote states member was not in favour of it passing and now wants roll call vote when there may have been a possible conflict? Does a new vote need to take place even though the original motion was passed and carried?
  6. Our organisation Constitution is silent on how votes can be taken at a AGM other than voting members must be present. Normal practice has been that votes are by show of hands. On one specific motion at upcoming AGM it has been requested by the proposer that the vote be done by secret ballot. (other motions at the meeting will be by the normal practice) is it in order to agree in advance that the vote will be by secret ballot, or can the chair refuse , or should the meeting vote on the method of voting if it is proposed and seconded by members Your guidance would be appreciated as always
  7. If an election was held by ballot, and certain members voted that were ineligible to vote, and the ballots were destroyed after the election, on what basis can the election be considere null and void? I found this on the dummies website, but can't find the supporting language in the actual rules.. "Votes cast by illegal voters must not be counted at all, not even included in the number of total votes cast. If it’s determined that enough illegal votes were cast by illegal voters to affect the result, and these votes can’t be identified and removed from the count, then the vote is deemed null and must be retaken." where is this rule?
  8. At a meeting last night which consisted of members as well as non-member and non-voting advisors, we elected new officers. Nominations were asked from the group and received. For each nomination, a motion of support was asked followed by asking for a second. The new officers were elected. The next day, the person drafting the minutes realized that an individual who was not a member (instead classified as an advisor) of our group had voiced a motion of support for the lone candidate for Chair. An actual member then voiced as seconding that motion. When we elected Vice Chair, the same non-member voiced a second in support for this lone candidate's nomination after a legitimate member voiced first motion of support. So, an actual member did have say at some point in the nomination proceedings. This was a complete accident on the non-member's behalf, and on our behalf for not recognizing his "illegal" motion at the time. I am very new to Robert's Rules of Order and formal meetings. From what I have gathered, it appears there is not a need for a "second" for nominations for an office position. So perhaps there is no issue with the Vice-Chair position, if I am reading this correctly. However, the non-member was the first to support the nomination for Chair. What must we do to officially address this situation? Should a new election or nomination process be held at our next meeting? Is our process okay since a legitimate member did voice support for each nomination? Appreciate any advice anyone can provide to me on the matter.
  9. The executive committee of our organization held a trial for a member and decided to suspend his membership for up to one year. Under the CBL the member has the right to appeal to the full membership by special meeting. A special meeting is scheduled and according to the CBL it will take 2/3 vote of members in good standing to overturn the decision of the Executive Committee. My question is do the members of the Executive committee get to vote again at the special meeting for the purpose of overturning their decision?
  10. At a meeting a motion was made to accept an application for membership and was properly seconded. The chair counted votes by raising of hands. I sat in the front of the meeting and did not turn around to count myself; hadn't ever thought it necessary. But the chair banged the gavel pretty quickly, announcing the motion carried. Afterward many members disputed the count, and the general consensus is that more "opposed" votes were placed than "in favor" votes. The meeting adjourned without any argument from the body; I began hearing complaints immediately after the meeting. That particular motion is a done deal. But questions quickly circulated concerning the chair's lack of a pause, during which a call for division may have been made ahead of the gavel, and if there were any options to dispute the chair's decision after the gavel fell. Since approving membership was practically immediate, I see no way to rescind. Virtually none of us are well educated on the rules, though I've begun reading up. I've yet to find a definitive answer on this and hope someone here might have some insight for us. Thank you.
  11. Seeker


    Hello, I am confused and do not know where to find the rules or if it is even in the rules. I am currently the vice president of my student government association and the president is not allowed to vote unless it's a tied. Since the president of my association will not be able to attend a few meetings and leaves me to be the chair/facilitator do i lose my voting rights?
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    Rear Commodore

    Our secretary mailed ballots to all members for the upcoming election. Our bylaws only allow absentee ballots if requested by a member. He also required ballots to be returned before the election meeting. Our bylaws state that the voting must be done at the meeting. Does his actions invalidate the election?
  13. We have 24 members in our group. Our Treasurer developed a budget that was endorsed by Executive Committee. In the absence of Treasurer, the Deputy Treasurer presented budget that was unanimously accepted by those present. We had 11 present. The next day, our secretary noted that we didn't have a quorum, so vote didn't count. That we would need to redo the vote at the next meeting if a quorum present. There is no controversy, and I fully expect it to be adopted unanimously again by those present at the next meeting. Is it necessary to vote again a month later? We had a second question for discussion. It concerned eliminating a project. The 11 present unanimously agreed to drop the project. Again, no controversy, and no real support to continue project. Is it necessary to redo the vote the next month. I believe 13 present would be required to have a forum.
  14. Is an organization (specifically, a church) that follows Roberts required to permit discussion before a vote to elect a minister? Or is it permitted to have a candidate preach and then have a secret ballot, without discussion, to approve him? There is nothing in this church's constitution that expressly allows or forbids the practice. Would past unchallenged precedents be sufficient grounds for permitting the practice if it is not usually allowed by Roberts? I ask because I am new to the church and I realize that organizations sometimes violate Roberts without realizing it, and I am one of those people who likes to get procedures right, just in case. NTG
  15. Can an individual hold more than one office on a board. For example president and secretary?
  16. Guest

    board members on leave

    are board members on leave allowed to vote in elections of officers?
  17. We have an upcoming called meeting where the primary motion to be considered is of such a nature that some would like it to require a 2/3 majority of those present to pass. I'd like to know what procedures in RONR such a preliminary motion would fall under. Would this be a suspension of rules? This seems an application of suspension. The other potentially applicable procedure would be amending by-laws but that will be out of order due to notice requirements. Thanks in advance
  18. I have a question. We have an advisory board meeting for 4-H shooting sports. a discussion was brought up about membership dues and fees at a shooting range. All of the board was present. A motion was made to keep the dues the same and make the advanced shooters pay their dues at the shooting range. It was 2nd, voted on and passed with 100% voting for it. later on the meeting was adjourned. Now some of the members want to change the rule that was voted on even though it was voted on and passed. Can this be done in a special meeting? It comes down to that some of the members were scared to voice their opinion and voted with the group, now those members want to speak up. I am not 100% familiar with RROO but trying to learn more as I go
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    Condo owner

    What is the proper procedure in an election of officers; such as how the incumbent individuals and new prospective officers are listed on the ballot? The Notice to all owners regarding the election of officers? In a recent election in my community there appears to be a misunderstanding of the process. Example: notice states you are entitled to one vote as a unit owner but further states there are three seats open for vote.
  20. Is there any restriction on how the parliamentarian or any other officers (besides the president whose restrictions I am already familiar with) may vote?
  21. Guest

    Voting Rights

    I was a new member of our (volunteer) club board October last year, who was present when the secretary (& Constitution committee chair) passed (but not unanimously) a motion to present a vast number of Constitution changes at our club’s next general meeting. At that general meeting I challenged the singular motion (all 37 changes had been bundled together) and I proposed an amendment to the main motion? I was advised that I was ‘out of order’, even though I correctly followed RONR timing to speak & submit my amendment, and was seconded from the floor. When I asked why I was ‘out of order’ I was advised it was because of our Roberts Rule of Order! Our constitution states: ‘Roberts Rules of Order shall prevail in the event of any dispute’ and this is the only reference to RONR in our Constitution or our By-Laws. I have since obtained the RONR 11th ed, fully updated 2nd edition- Newly Revised In Brief, and have read the content carefully and cannot see why I would have been deemed ‘Out of Order’ – is there something in the full RONR 11th ed., that prevents me from making such an amendment, such as that as a board member at time of the change was ‘approved’ for presentation to members, that I cannot amend or vote on the changes at that Spring meeting? I was NOT part of the working committee who proposed the changes.
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    Board Meetings

    Our current President of our quilting guild has been having Board meetings unannounced and impromptu on the fly on days that the meetings are not scheduled. She just rounds up the Board members who might be in attendance at a social gathering takes them aside and has them make decisions. As a member of the Board, the last time this happened, I was not noticed, invited or even given an opportunity to vote by email that there was a need for a Board decision. Our By Laws say that email votes can be taken. She then comes to the next membership meeting and announces the changes that were made at a social gathering that three members attended. This past Saturday, she tried to do the same thing and fortunately, someone suggested to her that she wait for her scheduled Board meeting this coming Thursday. The last time she did this, there were no minutes taken, no secretary at the meeting to take minutes and she said, well, we just got together and talked about and decided this is what we will do. The whole Board was not invited or noticed about the decision. Can she do this? Shouldn't she have called for an emergency meeting of the Board? Shouldn't minutes have been taken of the meeting and the decision?
  23. Guest

    Secret Ballots

    When HOA secret balloting is used, can the ballots be numbered to correspond to who is voting. The ballot is secret from all those at the meeting, but it provides a record of who voted to establish validity of the ballots.
  24. Our association has a very thin constitution and bylaws. The executive board was recently summoned to vote on extensive changes to an standing agreement. Official business occurred without the meeting called to order or a motion to vote among other bylaw infractions. A majority of the board was happy with the results and refuse to follow bylaws with the argument there is no language in the bylaws...However, bylaws state Robert's Rules of Order shall be the authority...Question 1... was the vote held valid? Question 2...what do you do when the board doesn't follow the bylaws?
  25. An officer of our Condo Association Board drafts a document, obtains agreement from the majority before the meeting, presents the document at the meeting and motions for a vote. He knows it will pass because he has already determined who will second the motion and has secured the majority votes. Currently, in less than 24 hours I must vote at a Board meeting on a document that I have NOT seen; let alone have time to review and complete my fudicary duty and due diligence as a Board member of the Association. Is there anything in Robert's Rules that says any documents or forms must be presented X number of days before a meeting? Nancy
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