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  1. The charters of student councils and the constitution of the Central Student Government both have provisions similar to "...approved by a simple majority vote of the assembly sitting en banc." There are no other modifiers other than "simple" and "en banc." Does "the majority sitting en banc" mean the majority of the entire membership, of those present, or of those voting?
  2. Our homeowners association uses cumulative voting and also allows for voting by proxy. For the election of board members, an association meeting is required. Quorum is a majority of owners by percentage of common interests. Every year at least three seats on the board are open; there are a total of nine seats. To be elected, a board member must have the majority of votes. This year, we have three open seats and six candidates. If 51% of owners are present in person or by proxy and satisfy the quorum requirements, then is 3 (seats) x 51 (percent present) equal to the number of total possible votes? What is the threshold that a candidate must meet to be seated? More than (3 x 51) divided by 2, or more than 76.5? If not, what is your calculation please? Since only one candidate can have the majority of votes, does this process then require at least two more re-votes to fill the remaining two seats, assuming that a candidate was seated in the first vote?
  3. The term "majority of a quorum" baffles me. It seems (1) redundant and (2) ambiguous. Redundant because a vote cannot be taken without a quorum present so why specify "majority of a quorum?" Ambiguous because it would seem to be subject to interpretation. Suppose an organization has 24 member and the bylaws state that 25% of the membership constitutes a quorum. Then 6 members would make up a quorum and 4 would be a majority of a quorum. Then suppose 20 members are present for the vote. A majority of those present would now be 11. Now 16 people vote in favor of the motion and 4 oppose. A majority of a quorum opposed. Does the motion fail? That's silly, of course, but in a world where millions of dollars can rest on the presence or absence of an "Oxford comma," it seems strange to use an ambiguous and redundant phrase. Any comments?
  4. We are to elect 3 members at large. 6 candidates are running. Our bylaws require that all positions must be won by a majority of votes cast. Because there are three positions, each member may cast three votes. Let's say 1 of the 6 achieves a majority in the first round of voting: do we have another roun with all 5 who did not make the threshold, or is the lowest vote-getter eliminated? Is the answer different if 2 of the six achieves majority the first time through? There is a clause in our bylaws that states that if no one receives a majority, then the top two candidates go to a second round, but that presumes three or more people vying for a single position instead of three slots, which is what we have here.
  5. If a candidate is running unopposed for a position and does not receive a majority vote, what provisions are in place for filling the office? Is there a such thing as a special election?
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    Failure to elect

    We need some help: We have a mutual benefit, non-profit organization with 5 members. It has worked well for 20 years. The charter says that the Chairman shall serve a one year term unless reappointed. A new chairman or a reappointment requires a vote of 66% (4 of 5). The group has split into a block of 2 and a block of 3. thus there is no majority to elect or reappoint the chairman. the charter has no provision for an impasse. What happens? Does old Chairman continue? Is there no Chairman?
  7. Question: How to resolve a vote on a motion when a plurality vote does not reach a majority? A motion will be made to choose by ballot one option from among four proposed choices. It is expected that no single choice will receive a majority vote. The assembly’s bylaws contain no rules about voting, deferring to the latest edition of Robert’s Rules for guidance. RONR (11th Ed, p. 4, ll. 3-5) states that in the absence of a written bylaw or rule “a proposition must be adopted by a majority vote.” Furthermore, “A plurality that is not a majority never chooses a proposition or elects anyone to office except by virtue of a special rule previously adopted” (pp. 405, ll. 2-4). When a majority vote does not emerge from such a vote, it seems RONR’s only recommendation to resolve the issue is to use “the normal procedure of repeated balloting until a majority is obtained” (p. 426, ll. 4-5). Repeated balloting is not likely to result in a majority vote in this case (or repeated balloting may be rejected as an option by the assembly). One suggestion for resolving this issue is, by way of a motion, to reduce the number of choices on the ballot by one or two, then vote again. If necessary, this can be repeated to reduce the choices to two. Is this suggestion valid? Are there any other ways to resolve this issue? Note: In an election, candidates are never removed during repeated balloting (p. 440, ll. 5-8), but this is a vote on a motion, not an election. Thank you.
  8. I live in a 55+ co-op in Florida, where we have recently run into a problem for which we have gotten nothing but conflicting opinions 1) Our By-laws state that our board should consist of seven directors, but recently several directors resigned because of political issues. We now have FOUR directors. 2) Our by-laws state " A majority of the whole membership of the Board of Directors shall constitute a quorum for the transaction of any and all business but if at any meeting of the Board there shall be less than a quorum present, the majority of those present may adjourn the meeting." Therefore: - In order to hold a board meeting, do we need a majority of FOUR or a majority of SEVEN? - If four board members are present at a meeting of the board, how many "yes" votes are needed to pass a motion? There's nothing else on this subject in either our documents or the Florida statutes. Thank you for your consideration!
  9. In a 2/3 vote with abstentions do the abstentions got to the majority or are they not counted at all lowering the 2/3 count? I need some help in this area.
  10. I have a question about the Minutes which seems a bit odd. Say I have an issue with a proposed set of Minutes. What if I claim that a motion was incorrectly recorded. I can offer a correction, but what if the majority of members disagree with me. Thus, I cannot accept approval of the Minutes if I honestly believe that the Minutes are not accurate. How would the final "approval" of the Minutes be acceptable if a small group of members back me up and we do not agree with the Minutes as they are presented? I ask this because RONR states that no vote is supposed to occur on the actual approval of the Minutes. This seems to be a situation where "majority rules" and unanimous consent will not take place. The majority wishes the Minutes to be approved as they are, but a majority disagrees (and let's assume that the 'minority' makes up more than 1/3 of the membership.) What would happen to ensure the Minutes are actually approved?
  11. It has been suggested by someone that to promote unity in a church for a controversial upcoming vote that someone make a motion to suspend the rules to increase the majority to 80% for the motion to pass. It would take a two thirds vote to suspend the rules, but is that an appropriate use of that type of motion?
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    "A majority vote is needed to adopt a motion" is what is stated in RONRIB but I do not find anything for a motion to adopt. Is there a difference?
  13. My state organization's Constitution and By-Laws do not specify that an officer must be elected by a majority vote. In the past, we have made the selection based on a plurality in some years, a majority in others. However, I seem to recall reading awhile ago in RONR that if there is no provision stating otherwise, a candidate must receive a majority of the votes cast to be elected. When I went back to check, I could not locate the paragraph I wanted. Am I mis-remembering? If not, could you indicate which chapter/section (or even page number) of RONR I should find this information in?
  14. Our organization will be taking the important step of amending our bylaws soon. Can the following bylaws amendment requirement of a "majority vote of [the society]" be interpreted unambiguously? "These rules may be altered or amended at any time by majority vote of the County Committee, provided ten days' notice in writing of the proposed changes shall have been previously given to each member." [emphasis added] For context, the County Committee is the name of the full society these bylaws are for. Should "majority vote of the County Committee" be interpreted as requiring a majority of the entire membership voting in the affirmative at a meeting, or could it just be a simple majority of those present (and voting) as long as a quorum is present? I realize the latter is clearly warned against in RONR as too low a threshold for amending bylaws, but can this wording be interpreted unambiguously as defined by RONR?
  15. My question is regarding a church annual meeting that uses Roberts' Rules. 1. Must budget line items (and total operating budget) be passed by a 2/3 majority or does a simple majority suffice? 2. If a budget salary line item is amended on annual meeting floor by a congregation member, despite the fact that an Executive Board is charged by church bylaws to sign all contracts and employ all personnel, does the annual meeting vote trump the Executive Board vote's vote (to employ that person for less money than the annual meeting voted for, by a very close margin)? THANK YOU for any help with these questions.
  16. In a paper ballot, the vote ends up in a a tie. Do you again revote until a majority vote is accomplished? It seems that a majority is not reached to either pass or fail the issue in the event of a tie. Nobody wins and nobody losses.
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    Voting By Email

    My Board has 13 Voting Members. We recently did an email poll to expend funds with results as follows: 5 Voted “Yes”-Expend the funds 4 Voted “No”-Do Not Expend the Funds 4 Did not Respond While a majority of returned votes (5/9) said yes, I am concerned that I do not have a simple majority of the total possible votes (7/13). Is that a valid concern or does this satisfy the majority vote? Comments welcome-and thank you very much for your opinion.
  18. Okay, I was wrong. I'm not finished with my questions. And quite honestly, the more I read here, the more questions pop into my head. Fortunately, I can also usually find the answer as well if I keep reading. (And I'm now halfway through the Complete Idiot's Guide to Robert's Rules, which has been very helpful in understanding my (brand-spanking new) copy of the 11th edition of RONR.) I am trying to figure out what exactly we have as our "majority" in our bylaws draft. It reads, "All resolutions shall require a simple majority vote, except for the following special resolutions...[A, B, and C] require a two-thirds majority, and [C and D] require a three-fourths majority." Is this too ambiguous? Someone suggested that we use, "All resolutions shall require a simple majority vote of those eligible to vote at a validly called meeting, except for the following special resolutions..." To me, this latter suggestion gives us what we *don't* want. We (presumably) don't want to be constantly counting voters at various points in each meeting to determine what the majority will be for any given vote, which is why we (so far) haven't included the italicized portion. But have we acheived our desire with the wording we used? It seems to me that, according to page 400, lines 8-12 of RONR (11th ed.), that our wording as we have it does just that...but I'd like to be certain now, *before* we have our bylaws meeting. Wow. That was long. I apologize for being so verbose. Louise
  19. We have a situation that because of conflict of interest the majority have abstained from voting. In a simple majority vote defined by the by-laws, what is the outcome?
  20. Is there a difference between the terms "majority of members present and voting" and "majority of members present" in Robert's Rules of Order? Shall appreciate to receive a reply with examples, as I think the difference between these two terms is not clearly stated in the Robert's Rules of Order, specially as regards to whether abstentions will have the same effect as the a "no" vote. I shall also greatly appreciate if the difference between these two terms, if actually exists, is added in the Frequently Asked Questions or Official Interpretations of the official website as the chair of our committee is stating that both terms have the same meaning unless there is an official explanation on the difference. Thanks in advance,
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    fractional votes

    If the bylaws call for a 51% majority and that turns out to be a fractional number, how is the fraction treated? For example, 51% of 145 voting members = 73.95. Does it require 73 or 74 votes to pass?
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