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  1. I'm the VP of a dog club. We are working on a bylaws revision. We held a special meeting (by Zoom) to discuss the current revision from the bylaws committee. I was under the impression that it was their final revision. At that meeting, the bylaws Chair logged out when the meeting was starting. I, who was facilitating the meeting as VP (by virtue of understanding Zoom) made the statement, "The Bylaws Committee Moves the Adoption of the Bylaws Revision." Shortly thereafter, the Bylaws Chair joined the meeting. We then went through every change, discussed, etc. and at the end took a form
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    Motion to rescind

    In a small body (9 members) who may offer a motion to rescind a prior non unanimous adopted measure?
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    Amend a main motion

    At the June meeting a motion was placed to pay an assessment on or before September 19th. September 19th is the first meeting of the Fall and there are no meetings in July and August. At the meeting in September a group of members want to bring an amend something previously adopted to change the date to later in the year. Some of the membership would have already paid the assessment because of the due date and now some of the members what to change it on the same day it's due. Is the September date too late to make any changes to the motion adopted in June?
  4. I am a member of a Board that voted to change its meeting date, time, and place. The minority (adamantly opposed to the new calendar) have continued to try to invalidate the change (which was adopted by a 2/3rds majority with previous notice), first by ignoring, then by requesting an email vote (our bylaws prohibit email voting), then by making a motion at the last meeting--which I suppose "carried out" the previous motion (at least for that first meeting of the newly adopted calendar). There was no previous notice. There was a simple majority affirmative vote on the new(?) motion (that did no
  5. At a meeting late last year a motion to do X passed. On the agenda for the next meeting, which took place recently, were, among other things, a motion to amend X (to provide more specifics for how it would work) and after that a motion to rescind X. The motion to amend X passed, and the hour was late, so the chair postponed the rest of the business to the next meeting. My question is this: Is it in order for the motion to rescind to come up after an affirmative vote to amend? RONR (11th ed.) states on p. 307: "A negative vote on these motions [to amend or rescind] can be reconsidered, but not
  6. How would you explain the difference between rescind and reconisder? With a general understanding, how would you debate on each? I don't see the difference in the way you would debate reconsider/rescind, particularly in an FFA demo. Is it debated the same way? An example would be awesome, but any clarification is appreciated. Thanks!
  7. How would you explain the difference between rescind and reconisder? With a general understanding, how would you debate on each? I don't see the difference in the way you would debate rescind or reconisder, especially in an FFA demonstration. Any clarification is appreciated. Thanks!
  8. We will have before us at the next meeting both a motion to rescind and a motion to amend, on the same previous decision. The motion to amend is in the board packet, while the motion to rescind has only been circulated by email. I understand that the motion to amend can pass with a simple majority while the motion to rescind will require a 2/3 majority. But does one motion take precedence over the other?
  9. At our last board meeting the board passed, what has become, a controversial decision. There is a movement among the membership to rescind the board decision at our upcoming membership meeting. It seems that rescind is not the right term (given that no person outside the board voted on the motion). What is the right terminology and process that should be used by the membership to overturn the decision of the board? I don't think the voting requirements to override the board are specified in our bylaws, does RONR have any burden beyond the majority? This member movement seems to want to make
  10. A few board members unhappy with our current COA management company conducted a search on their own for a new company. New company made presentation at April Board Meeting. No proposal presented to entire board prior to that time. One unhappy board member made a motion to switch management companies to the new company and motion was adopted / majority vote, the unhappy board members. Minority vote of board members are happy with current company. New company presented proposed management agreement to Board. Board requested the new company's proof of insurance. After reviewing the proposed ag
  11. My Board voted to send one Commissioner and one staff person on a study trip without designating which ones would attend; leaving that decision to discussion after the meeting. Within a few days after the meeting, two Commissioners decided they wanted to attend, and the staff person was happy to accommodate their wish and not attend so both Commissioners both go. Since the motion was to send one Commissioner and one staff person, do I now need to bring the matter back to the Commission at the next meeting with a rescind or reconsider of their initial motion and then have them move that two C
  12. As Commissioner of a Scout Group, I feel the need to have a policy & procedure manual. There currently isn't one, however, over the course of many (25-30) years many motions have been voted on. The Secretary role has changed often over the years and not all of my predecessors have ensured that all previously published minutes have been archived, so there is no definitive source of all previously passed motions. In order to propose the new policy manual, some of the items are completely new, never having been previously discussed while others have been the topic of many previous votes (eg
  13. In January a motion was passed by our Board that affects the school. Many parents of students were displeased by the measure. One of the key members was not present when it was presented. It passed 8-2. After a lot of back and forth sideline discussion it was decided that at our next meeting the missing individual would be able to present his facts. He feels if he had been able to do so at the meeting, the motion would not have been passed in such haste. Can the motion be brought back, or can a new motion be presented to rescind the previously passed motion? Most of the members seem to a
  14. Hello, I raised issues a couple days ago associated with confusion in a meeting, and got a great deal of helpful feedback. As I am still an RONR newbie, I'd appreciate a bit more feedback. Our group will meet again in a couple of days, and one or more members are likely to make a motion to amend a prior motion (I think this most likely), or to rescind the prior motion that was voted on at our last meeting, reopen discussion, and make a new motion on the basis of our discussion. I have two questions. First, given that the main motion from our meeting has now been voted on (and has now passed)
  15. My small board (7 members) has a by-law that allows a motion to Reconsider to be made any time within the fiscal year in which the previously-decided matter was originally decided. Otherwise, the motion to Reconsider is subject to the same rules in RONR for who can may make the motion and the number voting in favor required for its adoption. In regard to the time-frame, however, the fiscal year period is more liberal than the RONR standard, which would require the motion to be made in the same meeting as the previously-decided motion or, in the context of a session, in the same or next follo
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