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  1. Hello all, My colleague and I are running into an issue with our university student union upholding their written policies, and I am hoping to get some advice or clarification. Please note that I am not part of the executive committee; I have been pushing for the ratification of a resource centre for students on campus. The chair has displayed very evident bias against ratification of this resource centre, including withholding information that was pertinent to the situation and allowing a call to vote without obtaining 2/3rds majority in favour of ending the discussion, resulting in some executives abstaining due to lack of information. We (colleague and I) proposed the motion of ratifying our resource centre. The voting went as follows: In favor: 9 Against: 2 Abstentions: 3 It was announced that our motion did not pass. When we inquired about the outcome and were told that we did not follow proper procedures during the process of becoming ratified. This was false, and was only brought up during the board debate/vote when my colleague and I did no longer had speaking rights to defend ourselves. Under the regulations of the student union, this vote required a 2/3rds majority to pass. Abstentions were counted as votes against the motion. University regulations state that General Robert's Rules of Order are upheld unless stated otherwise in the constitution/bylaws, however there is nothing within these policies that contradicts Robert's Rules. It is important to note that a voting member requested clarification on the voting procedure immediately before votes were cast, but the chair dismissed their question and provided no clarification on how votes were being cast (this took place over Zoom, votes were cast by raising of hands). It is also important to note that one of the individuals who abstained from voting was not made aware that her vote would be counted against the motion. She had abstained due to lack of information, and has since stated that if she knew her abstention would be counted against the motion, she would've voted in favour. We brought this to the attention of the board, and we have only received pushback. We requested confirmation of their regulations stating that abstentions do count towards the voting totals, but they were unable to provide us with any written policies. We were told that the union used this voting system "historically", which is why it was upheld regardless of written regulations. The manager has claimed that many organizations have a grey area within their written policies, and that historical precedence holds value. Since this, the chair has proposed a motion to table all new resource centres indefinitely. This motion has not been passed yet. We have been trying to receive clarification on our situation prior to this new motion passing, but the board has continuously delayed or ignored our requests. From my understanding, several policies have been ignored throughout this process. I recognize that I am not an expert, nor do I have any experience in this field aside from this experience, so I am seeking advice on how to move forward with this situation. Ratification of the resource centre is important, but not my priority at this point. I would like to ensure that this board is held accountable to the same standards that they hold students (like myself) to follow proper policy when going through these processes. If further details are required to help assess this situation, please let me know.
  2. Can a member of a Board who abstained in the original vote, subsequently "move a reconsideration" vote? It was mentioned in my previous post that this type of action was not allowable, but where can I find this ruling in Robert's Rules of Order? We have a Board meeting tonight and I need to find this asap!!!!.....Thanks.
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    Abstention Votes

    SO my question is what happens if the entire committee decides to abstain. Meaning that there were not votes for or against the motion and only abstentions. For instance, if there is a motion and the vote count is zero ayes zero nays but 4 abstentions, does the motion pass or fail?
  4. FAQ # 6 says: "On the other hand, if the vote required is a majority or two thirds of the members present, or a majority or two thirds of the entire membership, an abstention will have the same effect as a “no” vote." My question is, does the effect of an abstention change if the by-law says "a majority of the members present and voting" vs. just "present"? Thanks in advance.
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    Newly elected School Board member. I am being asked to vote on a raise for the Superintendent. I was not part of the evaluation process that led to this raise. I believe abstaining from the vote is the proper thing to do. What does Roberts Rule say regarding this?
  6. I'm a member of a Board the bylaws of which provide that the Chair does not vote except to make or break a tie. Our bylaws also require that a reason be noted in the minutes for all abstentions. Two questions: 1.
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