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  1. At the recent meeting of our association a motion was made and seconded and a vigorous discussion began. Another motion was made and seconded. It was pointed out that there already was a seconded motion was on the floor. The question was called on the second motion and voted on with approval granted. Can a member bring up this as an illegal motion at the next meeting and present the original motion to reopen discussion? Thank you!
  2. An organization I'm in records the names of those who second motions in the minutes. RONR says: (RONR 11 p. 470 ll. 26-28, emphasis mine) Does custom qualify as being "ordered by the assembly"? Should I bring this up to the secretary (who, as I understand it, has been secretary for quite some time, where I'm not even officially parliamentarian (yet))? Or should I chalk this up to "pick your battles" and go back to reminding people that "friendly amendments" aren't a thing?
  3. If a member at the current meeting was NOT present at the previous meeting, can he/she move or second the motion to accept the mintues of the previous meeting (that he/she was NOT in attendance)?
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    Second Vs. Voting

    In regards to a three member board. One member discloses a conflict of interest, but lets the public know that per the State Ethics Commission he can vote to break a tie, because of the size of the board. If the chairman makes the motion, can the person with the conflict of interest second that motion? I understand that he can "vote" to break a tie, but the second has to come before the vote.
  5. At a recent meeting, a committee report contained a motion that only the reporting member wanted to come before the assembly. (The vote in committee had been 1-0, with several abstentions.) Does the motion require a second? RONR says no, “since the motion’s introduction has been directed by a majority vote within the board or committee and is therefore desired by at least two assembly members” ([11th ed., p. 36, ll. 18–21; see also the footnote on p. 507). I don’t follow this reasoning, given the sort of case above. Should the reporting member have briefly explained the situation and requested that the chair ask for a second?
  6. RONR p. 356, l. 5 ff says: "If an officer, in reporting, makes a recommendation, he should not himself move its implementation, but such a motion can be made by another member as soon as the officer has concluded his report." 1. Does it need a second, since there obviously is a second member (the officer) in favor of the motion made by another member? 2. If it does need a second, can the reporting officer second it? 3. Why is this "should not" rule in RONR? Thanks for any feedback! -- Paul McClintock
  7. RONR, page 356, lines 5-8 states: "If an officer, in reporting, makes a recommendation, he should not himself move its implementation, but such a motion can be made by another member as soon as the officer has concluded his report." After another member makes the motion, does it need a second? I think not, since the recommendation from the officer already ensures that a second member wishes for the motion to be considered, assuming that the officer is a member. But I wonder if there are other opinions and the reasoning for them.
  8. Two questions: 1. If an ADOPTED agenda includes a generic topic under New Business like "Lobby Decorating," can multiple motions germane to "Lobby Decorating" be offered under that agenda item before the body proceeds to the next item of business (say, "Landscaping")? For example, let's say a motion concerning wallpaper is made and disposed of under Lobby Decorating, can a member then rise following that vote and make a motion concerning carpeting? Or, are no further motions in order beyond that first motion because the next item of business (Landscaping) is up next? 2. I serve on a small board of fewer than 12 members. When it comes discussing business items on an adopted agenda, we customarily prefer to make a motion and require a second at the outset. But, we understand that RONR 11 ed. Procedure In Small Boards permits informal discussion when no motion is pending. This procedure also says that "motions need not be seconded" (p. 488 l. 1), which in our experience makes it very difficult for our group (even small) to distill and agree when a motion has been made "perfectly clear" (p. 488, l. 9), especially for the presiding officer and secretary. Is there any guidance on how to balance the procedures for small boards with the rest of the Rules? Can we allow informal discussion to precede a properly made motion, and how enforceable is that? Does having an approved agenda help control any of this?
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    Call the question

    After a motion has been made and a second follows, the chair asks for discussion. After discussion has come to an end, and a person is recognized to speak, they announce "I call the question" does the membership have to move, second and vote on "calling the question"? Or do you just procede to the motion that was on the floor and vote?
  10. Hello! I am not a Robert's Rules expert, but I am generally familiar with the workings. I wonder if I witnessed a violation of Robert's Rules the other night... At a local city commissioners' meeting, the commission spent a great deal of time discussing an issue. Finally, a member moved to vote on the motion, and the move was seconded. However, after that, a 3rd member stated that he needed still more information and moved to postpone the vote. After a lot of confusion, one member said that a motion to postpone supersedes a motion to vote. The motion to postpone was carried (barely) and the motion to vote was simply lost in the shuffle. My question is: once a motion to vote has been made and seconded, can it be "overruled" by a new motion to postpone? Thank you for your advice! Glenn
  11. Only executive members of a board have a vote per the bylaws. A motion is made by an executive board member and a second by a non-executive board member. A vote is taken and the motion passes. Is the voting result valid?
  12. Do I have the correct understanding - that if a committee presents a motion there does not need a second? If true you would then present the motion, ask for discussion, and then do a vote - is this the correct due process? Thank You
  13. We have a small board of 5 members. Is the chairperson/president able to second a motion? I have not been able to find anything about this in Robert's Rules of Order. I do have the 11th edition, if that helps. She did second a motion back in October and she voted for it because there was a tie. The members that voted against are saying she wasn't allowed to second and may want to re-visit the motion and vote again. Can this be done? Thanks for your help.
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    May a Mover vote "No"?

    Hello RR pros. Here's my two-part question: May an individual who introduces a motion (i.e., the mover) vote "no" once the motion goes to vote? Is there a specific provision within RR which discusses this (or is it merely permissible by way of not being disallowed)? Thank you in advance!
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    Committee Resolutions

    Does a resolution/motion coming forward from a committee need a second?
  16. Can a motion be amended before it has received a second?
  17. must the motion to accept and the second to accept minutes be made by a member present at the meeting from which said minutes develop? or, may any member move or second to accept minutes regardless of their attendance record? motion on approval of minutes
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    Vote on Adjournment

    Is a vote required for adjournment even if the "adjournment" is listed on the agenda following necessary business and a motion to approve the agenda has carried previously? I've been told by some that the person presiding over the meeting can simply say "we're adjourned" without taking a vote in this instance.
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    Withdrawal of a second

    If a motion is seconded and discussion ensues, can the second be withdrawn by the person who seconded the motion? I ask this question in the context of the following: I made a motion. The Chairperson seconded the motion. The Chairperson asked me to amend my motion with the Chairperson's recommended changes. I suggested to the Chairperson that my motion should be voted on first and then the Chairperson could make another motion with their proposed action which was not in conflict with my motion. The Chairperson then said "I withdraw my second". No other members were solicited for their discussion by the Chairperson during the previous discussion before the withdrawal of the second. The Chairperson then said "your motion failed for lack of a second". The Chairperson did not solicit other Members to second the motion after the Chairperson withdrew the second. The Chairperson then made a motion identical to my motion with the changes that the Chairperson wanted in the motion. The motion was seconded and passed. Did my motion fail for lack of a second? I don't think so. Either because a second cannot be withdrawn or because the Chairperson did not solicit other Members for a second to my motion before making her own motion.
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