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Guest posted a topic in General DiscussionFirst question: How do you calculate a majority (51%) for an odd number of members? For example, 51% of 12 is 7 (50% is 6 and you need one more vote than 50%). But, for 11, 50% is 5.5 members and one more is 6.5 or 7 when rounded up. But, if you multiply 7 by .51, you get 5.61 which is 6 when rounded up. Second question: At what decimal point do you round up for a two-thirds vote. For example, two-thirds of 12 is 8.0004, two-thirds of 15 is 10.005, two-thirds of 19 is 12.673, and two-thirds of 20 is 13.34. For two-thirds of 19 and 20, I can see rounding up to 13 and to 14, respectively, but for 12 and 15, it seems that two-thirds should be 8 and 10, respectively. Thanks, Betty.
“No rule protecting a minority of a particular size can be suspended in the face of a negative vote as large as the minority protected by the rule” ([11th ed.], p. 261, ll. 15–17). But the “vote required for adoption” of Suspend the Rules is two-thirds, “except where the rule protects a minority of less than one third” (tinted p. 27). (1) Can a rule that protects 10 members be suspended by a vote of 20-10? Page 261 says no, but tinted p. 27 indicates yes. Should tinted p. 27 say “less than or equal to one third”? (2) As I understand the general principle, suspending a rule that protects a minority of less than or equal to one-third requires a vote greater than two-thirds. In other words, if m = number of members present and voting n = number of members protected by a rule (n ≤ m/3) v = vote necessary for adoption then v > (m – n). Is it okay to have a mathematical difference like this, rather than a fraction, for “the proportion that must concur” (p. 402, l. 26)? How should the chair announce the voting result? What should a tellers’ report say is “necessary for adoption”?