Guest Megan Posted April 28, 2011 at 05:14 PM Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 at 05:14 PM Our Fire Department had its monthly meeting. A motion was made and properly seconded to buy an item, the body voted and the motion was passed. Not one person during the meeting voted against this item. After the meeting was over the President decided that he was going to say no we are not buying this item. Can he do this after the motion has been made, seconded and passed through the body? And can he do this after the meeting or does it need to be done in the meeting? Does this need to be brought up at another meeting and voted on again or what do we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted April 28, 2011 at 05:20 PM Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 at 05:20 PM Can he do this after the motion has been made, seconded and passed through the body? And can he do this after the meeting or does it need to be done in the meeting?No, unless the Bylaws grant the President such unusual authority. If they do, the specifics will be up to your organization's rules.Does this need to be brought up at another meeting and voted on again or what do we do?Under RONR, the President's declaration has no parliamentary weight, since it occurred outside the context of a meeting. The motion remains effective and should be carried out. If the President refuses to follow the legitimate orders of the assembly, the assembly may wish to take disciplinary action. See FAQ #20 and Ch. XX of RONR. In the meantime, the other officers should carry out the motion if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Megan Posted April 28, 2011 at 05:23 PM Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 at 05:23 PM No, unless the Bylaws grant the President such unusual authority. If they do, the specifics will be up to your organization's rules.Under RONR, the President's declaration has no parliamentary weight, since it occurred outside the context of a meeting. The motion remains effective and should be carried out. If the President refuses to follow the legitimate orders of the assembly, the assembly may wish to take disciplinary action. See FAQ #20 and Ch. XX of RONR. In the meantime, the other officers should carry out the motion if possible.Thank you so much. I have been going through the this book upside down looking for something. Thank you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted April 28, 2011 at 05:28 PM Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 at 05:28 PM Thank you so much. I have been going through the this book upside down looking for something. Thank you again.It reads easier right-side up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Megan Posted April 28, 2011 at 05:31 PM Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 at 05:31 PM Thank you so much. I have been going through the this book upside down looking for something. Thank you again.Is there a specific spot in the Robert's Rule of Order where this is stated about the Presidents declaration has no parlimentary weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weldon Merritt Posted April 28, 2011 at 07:12 PM Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 at 07:12 PM Is there a specific spot in the Robert's Rule of Order where this is stated about the Presidents declaration has no parlimentary weight?A better question to ask is where does RONR (or any other rule) say that the president's declaration does have any parliamentary weight? Since the president only has such authority as the bylaws (pr other applicable rules) grant, the burden is on him to show that his declaration has any effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted April 28, 2011 at 07:39 PM Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 at 07:39 PM Is there a specific spot in the Robert's Rule of Order where this is stated about the Presidents declaration has no parlimentary weight?See RONR, 10th ed., pg. 440, under "Administrative Duties of the President of a Society," which is the catch-all for all the things Presidents try to do that have no foundation in RONR or the organization's rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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