Guest Jennifer Elle Posted June 22, 2011 at 09:45 PM Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 at 09:45 PM A month ago, I was nominated for the Vice President of a club that I am in. I originally accepted, then withdrew. Now, with a vote 3 weeks away and a lot of thought, I WOULD really like to do it. New nominations are closed. Can I un-withdraw my nomination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted June 22, 2011 at 09:52 PM Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 at 09:52 PM A month ago, I was nominated for the Vice President of a club that I am in. I originally accepted, then withdrew. Now, with a vote 3 weeks away and a lot of thought, I WOULD really like to do it. New nominations are closed. Can I un-withdraw my nomination?When the time for the election arrives, the presiding officer should read the names of those who have been nominated and ask if there are any further nominations, at which you are free to nominate yourself (or have a friend nominate you). It will be up to the electors to decide if all this wavering is a promising sign of a good officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted June 22, 2011 at 09:53 PM Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 at 09:53 PM A month ago, I was nominated for the Vice President of a club that I am in. I originally accepted, then withdrew. Now, with a vote 3 weeks away and a lot of thought, I WOULD really like to do it. New nominations are closed. Can I un-withdraw my nomination?First I would move to reopen nominations (takes a majority vote-RONR p. 277) or have a buddy do it and nominate you/yourself. Another option if the assembly refuses to reopen nomination is to run a write in campaign (this only works if the vote is taken by ballot and the bylaws don't prohibit write-in voting) and have your buddies write you name down on the ballot (RONR p. 427). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Elle Posted June 22, 2011 at 09:54 PM Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 at 09:54 PM A month ago, I was nominated for the Vice President of a club that I am in. I originally accepted, then withdrew. Now, with a vote 3 weeks away and a lot of thought, I WOULD really like to do it. New nominations are closed. Can I un-withdraw my nomination?OUr bylaws state that there can be no nominations from the floor at the voting meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Elle Posted June 22, 2011 at 09:58 PM Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 at 09:58 PM When the time for the election arrives, the presiding officer should read the names of those who have been nominated and ask if there are any further nominations, at which you are free to nominate yourself (or have a friend nominate you). It will be up to the electors to decide if all this wavering is a promising sign of a good officer.We won't have a meeting before then, and our group is rather large, so I don't know how well a write in would work, but I guess its worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted June 22, 2011 at 10:13 PM Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 at 10:13 PM We won't have a meeting before then, and our group is rather large, so I don't know how well a write in would work, but I guess its worth a shot. Our good friend and colleague J.J. has been elected that way, and several of us have seen successful write-in campaigns......get YOUR like-minded friends to the meeting and you just might win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Elle Posted June 22, 2011 at 11:04 PM Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 at 11:04 PM Can a motion be made through email? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted June 22, 2011 at 11:14 PM Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 at 11:14 PM Can a motion be made through email?Not unless the bylaws specifically provides for conducting business via email (RONR p. 2 [footnote], p. 244[d], p. 255, pp. 408-409). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jennifer Elle Posted June 22, 2011 at 11:30 PM Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 at 11:30 PM Not unless the bylaws specifically provides for conducting business via email (RONR p. 2 [footnote], p. 244[d], p. 255, pp. 408-409).Well dang all. even if doesn't specifically disallow it???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted June 22, 2011 at 11:34 PM Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 at 11:34 PM Well dang all. even if doesn't specifically disallow it????Nope. RONR pp. 408-409 are quite clear.It is a fundamental principle of parliamentary law that the right to vote is limited to the members of an organization who are actually present at the time the vote is taken in a legal meeting, although it should be noted that a member need not be present when the question is put. Exceptions to this rule must be expressly stated in the bylaws. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted June 23, 2011 at 01:31 AM Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 at 01:31 AM OUr bylaws state that there can be no nominations from the floor at the voting meeting.Such a rule is suspendable. A motion to Suspend the Rules is not debatable and requires a 2/3 vote for adoption.Can a motion be made through email?No, but no rule in RONR prohibits, for instance, campaigning via e-mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary c Tesser Posted June 23, 2011 at 07:04 AM Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 at 07:04 AM Such a rule is suspendable. A motion to Suspend the Rules is not debatable and requires a 2/3 vote for adoption.Josh, this looks like a rule that intends to protect the rights of absentees. Are you sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted June 23, 2011 at 07:25 AM Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 at 07:25 AM Josh, this looks like a rule that intends to protect the rights of absentees. Are you sure?I'm not sure that rule would protect absentees, unless there were absentee ballots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted June 23, 2011 at 02:05 PM Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 at 02:05 PM I'm not sure that rule would protect absentees, unless there were absentee ballots.It protects absentees in the sense that, although persons may be elected without having been nominated (unless the rules state otherwise, and we haven't read the rules of this organization), those persons' chances are much lower, and after reviewing the list of nominees previously announced, members will take this fact into account in deciding whether to attend the meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted June 24, 2011 at 01:29 AM Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 at 01:29 AM Josh, this looks like a rule that intends to protect the rights of absentees. Are you sure?Possibly. I don't think we know enough about the organization's rules to know for sure. If it is intended to protect absentees, it would probably be best for the organization to prohibit write-in votes as well, or it doesn't quite do the job. For instance, even if one were to argue that the rule in question could not be suspended, I think it would be hard to argue that it would cause a continuing breach if it was suspended anyway, since the same result could be obtained through a write-in campaign (although likely with greater difficulty).It protects absentees in the sense that, although persons may be elected without having been nominated (unless the rules state otherwise, and we haven't read the rules of this organization), those persons' chances are much lower, and after reviewing the list of nominees previously announced, members will take this fact into account in deciding whether to attend the meeting.Do we know that the list of nominees is distributed to the membership? If it was, I agree that this would certainly be persuasive in arguing that the rule was intended to protect absentees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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