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As RONR states...Page 382 Line 20

Rules Against the Chair's Participation in Debate

If the presiding officer is a member of the society, he has - as an individual - the same rights in debate as any other member; but the impartiality required of the chair in an assembly precludes his exercising these rights while he is presiding. Normally, especially in a large body, he should have nothing to say on the merits of pending questions. On certain occasions - which should be extremely rare - the presiding officer may believe that a crucial factor relating to such a question has been overlooked and that his obligation as a member to call attention to the point outweighs his duty to preside at that time. To participate in debate, he must relinquish the chair; and in such a case he should turn the chair over:

Does RONR more specifically state that the Chair may not or should not or must first relinquish the chair before seconding a bylaw amendments or motion?

And if not, can you cite a page? I'm just not sure if seconding a motion is considered participating in debate?, it seems like it would be.

Please advise.

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No. RONR doesn't cover the chair seconding motions.

In my opinion, the chair should never second a motion. If he feels the assembly should deal with that badly, he can state it, thereby putting it before the assembly. Any member could raise a point of order that it's not seconded, but that doesn't change the fact he should never second a motion.

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As RONR states...Page 382 Line 20

Rules Against the Chair's Participation in Debate

If the presiding officer is a member of the society, he has - as an individual - the same rights in debate as any other member; but the impartiality required of the chair in an assembly precludes his exercising these rights while he is presiding. Normally, especially in a large body, he should have nothing to say on the merits of pending questions. On certain occasions - which should be extremely rare - the presiding officer may believe that a crucial factor relating to such a question has been overlooked and that his obligation as a member to call attention to the point outweighs his duty to preside at that time. To participate in debate, he must relinquish the chair; and in such a case he should turn the chair over:

Does RONR more specifically state that the Chair may not or should not or must first relinquish the chair before seconding a bylaw amendments or motion?

And if not, can you cite a page? I'm just not sure if seconding a motion is considered participating in debate?, it seems like it would be.

Please advise.

Take a look at RONR (10th ed.), p. 34. Nothing there indicates that the chairman of a larger assembly seconds a motion that would otherwise die.

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Does RONR more specifically state that the Chair may not or should not or must first relinquish the chair before seconding a bylaw amendments or motion?

No.

And if not, can you cite a page?

RONR(10th ed.), p. 35, l. 13-27 seems reasonably clear on the subject.

I'm just not sure if seconding a motion is considered participating in debate?, it seems like it would be.

No, it would not be considered participating in debate. Debate comes during the consideration of the motion (p. 40), which comes after the motion is brought before the assembly (p. 31).

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