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If the body passes a motion (by 2/3) to limit debate on the main motion to no more than one comment per member, may members during their one comment introduce a motion to amend the main motion?

If this is in order, how should the discussion and voting on the amendment to the main motion be handled? Would there be any limit on discussion of the amendment?

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If the body passes a motion (by 2/3) to limit debate on the main motion to no more than one comment per member, may members during their one comment introduce a motion to amend the main motion?

If this is in order, how should the discussion and voting on the amendment to the main motion be handled? Would there be any limit on discussion of the amendment?

Yes, members may still move any subsidiary motions. The only time when this is not in order is if a motion is passed to end debate and immediately take a vote at a certain time; at that time, amendments are no longer in order.

On any subsidiary motion, the motion limiting debate remains in effect, and each member would be limited to "one comment", whatever that is.

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Yes and yes.

If the body passes a motion (by 2/3) to limit debate on the main motion to no more than one comment per member, may members during their one comment introduce a motion to amend the main motion?

Yes, assuming that by "no more than one comment" is meant "no more than one speech". [i can't imagine how one would determine whether a given speech was composed of one, two, or multiple "comments"!] "When assigned the floor, a member may use it for any proper purpose, or a combination of purposes; for example, although a member may have begun by debating a pending motion, he may conclude by moving any secondary motion. . . . that is in order at the time." RONR (11th ed.), p. 378, ll. 1-4.

If this is in order, how should the discussion and voting on the amendment to the main motion be handled? Would there be any limit on discussion of the amendment?

"An order limiting debate applies not only to the motion(s) on which the limitation is ordered, but also to any debatable subsidiary motions . . . that may become pending subsequently while the order is in force." RONR(11th ed.), p. 193, ll. 31-35 (emphasis in original).

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Yes, members may still move any subsidiary motions. The only time when this is not in order is if a motion is passed to end debate and immediately take a vote at a certain time; at that time, amendments are no longer in order.

This is not quite correct. See the newly clarified treatment of this topic in the 11th edition of RONR, page 194, line 6 to page 195, line 8.

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