Guest wwd Posted January 12, 2012 at 05:06 PM Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 at 05:06 PM Does a motion to reconsider reverse the motion in question or merely re-open the motion for further debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted January 12, 2012 at 05:11 PM Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 at 05:11 PM Reconsider, which is only appropriate during the same session (typically, that would mean during the same meeting) at which the target motion was adopted, puts that motion again before the assembly. It does not automatically reverse the previous decision on the motion.A motion to rescind, if adopted, would reverse the previous decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Hunt Posted January 12, 2012 at 06:01 PM Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 at 06:01 PM Reconsider, which is only appropriate during the same session (typically, that would mean during the same meeting) at which the target motion was adopted, puts that motion again before the assembly. It does not automatically reverse the previous decision on the motion.It does reverse the decision in the sense that once the motion is made, the decision is suspended and the parliamentary situation is as if the motion had never been adopted; debate on that motion is resumed and then it is voted on again, with the same requirements for adoption as the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted January 12, 2012 at 06:21 PM Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 at 06:21 PM It does reverse the decision in the sense that once the motion is made, the decision is suspended and the parliamentary situation is as if the motion had never been adopted; debate on that motion is resumed and then it is voted on again, with the same requirements for adoption as the first time.That's true, and I was thinking about it after I posted. If the motion to reconsider is adopted, the earlier decision is not just suspended, ready to come back to life; that earlier decision is gone (the assembly is back to considering the motion, prior to voting one way or the other). With rescind, on the other hand, if the motion to rescind is adopted, the decision on the earlier motion has been reversed, and that earlier motion is no longer before the assembly. I suppose the best answer to the original post depends on what the original poster meant by 'reverse'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted January 13, 2012 at 03:59 AM Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 at 03:59 AM That's true, and I was thinking about it after I posted. If the motion to reconsider is adopted, the earlier decision is not just suspended, ready to come back to life; that earlier decision is gone (the assembly is back to considering the motion, prior to voting one way or the other).Actually, Mr. Hunt had it right (about the "suspending" part, anyway). The adoption of the motion to Reconsider suspends action on the motion, and in some cases it can "come back to life." This distinction is just a technicality in your example, but it is quite important if the motion to Reconsider is made at a time when it cannot be called up until later. See RONR, 11th ed., pg. 321, lines 9-28 for more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted January 13, 2012 at 02:42 PM Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 at 02:42 PM It does reverse the decision in the sense that once the motion is made, the decision is suspended and the parliamentary situation is as if the motion had never been adopted; debate on that motion is resumed and then it is voted on again, with the same requirements for adoption as the first time.Well, the making of a motion to Reconsider has a suspending effect, but only its adoption makes the parliamentary situation the same as it was immediately before the vote was taken on the motion to be reconsidered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted January 13, 2012 at 02:43 PM Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 at 02:43 PM Actually, Mr. Hunt had it right. The adoption of the motion to Reconsider suspends action on the motion suspends action on the decision, and in some cases it can "come back to life." This distinction is just a technicality in your example, but it is quite important if the motion to Reconsider is made at a time when it cannot be called up until later. See RONR, 11th ed., pg. 321, lines 9-28 for more information.Thanks -- it appears 'suspension' is indeed the correct technical term.Hopefully Guest_wwd's question has been adequately answered somewhere earlier in this thread. If, instead, things look murkier and murkier as you read further in the thread, please speak up and insist on a clearer answer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Hunt Posted January 13, 2012 at 11:55 PM Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 at 11:55 PM Well, the making of a motion to Reconsider has a suspending effect, but only its adoption makes the parliamentary situation the same as it was immediately before the vote was taken on the motion to be reconsidered.As usual, Dan arrives just in time to correct my incorrectness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted January 14, 2012 at 12:11 AM Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 at 12:11 AM Does a motion to reconsider reverse the motion in question or merely re-open the motion for further debate?As an interesting note: in the case of a motion to reconsider an affirmative vote on the Previous Question, if the motion to Reconsider is adopted, it is presumed to have reversed the vote on the Previous Question. See p. 206, ll. 3-13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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