Guest david Posted February 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM in my last meeting it was pronounced [according to RRoR] that the recommendation of a committee comes forward as a motion, and does not need a second. this makes a good bit of sense, insofar as a committee can presume that a member of the committee is willing to second the recommendation.my question is whether this is true of "all committees" or only "standing committee." the rule would not seem as logical for exploratory committees, search committees, etc.opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted February 12, 2012 at 02:12 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 at 02:12 PM Any committee.That's assuming that enough members of the committee are also members of the body which is receiving the report (i.e. the body which will consider the motion being made). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted February 12, 2012 at 03:11 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 at 03:11 PM in my last meeting it was pronounced [according to RRoR] that the recommendation of a committee comes forward as a motion, and does not need a second. this makes a good bit of sense, insofar as a committee can presume that a member of the committee is willing to second the recommendation.my question is whether this is true of "all committees" or only "standing committee." the rule would not seem as logical for exploratory committees, search committees, etc.opinions?If the committee is composed of more than one person, no second is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted February 12, 2012 at 03:12 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 at 03:12 PM Any committee.That's assuming that enough members of the committee are also members of the body which is receiving the report (i.e. the body which will consider the motion being made).Membership in the body receiving the report is not a factor, see p. 36, ll. 15-23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted February 12, 2012 at 07:54 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 at 07:54 PM Membership in the body receiving the report is not a factor, see p. 36, ll. 15-23.OK, thanks for pointing this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted February 12, 2012 at 08:30 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 at 08:30 PM However, see this recent thread:http://robertsrules....h__1#entry69058and RONR (11th ed.) p. 507 ll.9-24.I'm still pondering how the p. 36 and p. 507 citations work together... or whether they actually fundamentally contradict each other, which seems unlikely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted February 18, 2012 at 03:44 PM Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 at 03:44 PM OK, I'm 'bumping' this thread, in hopes of some additional input on the question of p. 36 vs. p. 507. I think Guest_david should be coming back and nagging, but he isn't...Since p. 507 specifically mentions the recommendations of committees, which is what David asked about in the first place, I would think the citation is directly applicable.Does the rule on p. 36 not apply to recommendations of committees? It speaks of a 'motion made by direction of a board or duly appointed committee of the the assembly' -- it sounds like that would cover committee recommendations, but maybe I'm missing something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted February 18, 2012 at 04:02 PM Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 at 04:02 PM OK, I'm 'bumping' this thread, in hopes of some additional input on the question of p. 36 vs. p. 507. I think Guest_david should be coming back and nagging, but he isn't...Since p. 507 specifically mentions the recommendations of committees, which is what David asked about in the first place, I would think the citation is directly applicable.Does the rule on p. 36 not apply to recommendations of committees? It speaks of a 'motion made by direction of a board or duly appointed committee of the the assembly' -- it sounds like that would cover committee recommendations, but maybe I'm missing somethingWhat is said on page 36, lines 15-23 assumes (as does the paragraph on p. 507, ll. 4-19) that the reporting member is a member of the assembly. Lines 20-29 on page 507 deal with situations in which this is not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted February 19, 2012 at 02:20 PM Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 at 02:20 PM OK, I'm 'bumping' this thread, in hopes of some additional input on the question of p. 36 vs. p. 507. I think Guest_david should be coming back and nagging, but he isn't...Since p. 507 specifically mentions the recommendations of committees, which is what David asked about in the first place, I would think the citation is directly applicable.Does the rule on p. 36 not apply to recommendations of committees? It speaks of a 'motion made by direction of a board or duly appointed committee of the the assembly' -- it sounds like that would cover committee recommendations, but maybe I'm missing somethingI think clarity would be added by carefully considering that only a MEMBER has a right to make a motion, and the rules must be suspended to allow a nonmember to do so. The rules pertaining to the recommendation of a board or committee relate only to a SECOND not being necessary, since a second guides the chairman by the fact that more than one person wants to see the motion considered. Those rules do not nullify the rule that a motion must be made by a member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted February 19, 2012 at 03:06 PM Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 at 03:06 PM I think clarity would be added by carefully considering that only a MEMBER has a right to make a motion, and the rules must be suspended to allow a nonmember to do so. The rules pertaining to the recommendation of a board or committee relate only to a SECOND not being necessary, since a second guides the chairman by the fact that more than one person wants to see the motion considered. Those rules do not nullify the rule that a motion must be made by a member.Thanks. My confusion came from reading the material on p. 36 ll. 15-24 on its own (and I think it is potentially confusing when read stand-alone). Lo and behold, when I finally turned back to the previous page, I realized it was all in the context of the section heading: SECONDING A MOTION. Duhhh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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