Guest Gary J. F. Posted February 17, 2012 at 01:21 AM Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 at 01:21 AM Our Village Board had three items to discuss in closed session. Two related to bargaining issues, and one was an issue with direction on a contract. I felt the contract issue was not a negotiation, as much as a clarification on direction. I stated this to the Village president, but was ignored.Q1- Is there a formal way to force the issue from closed session to open.Q2-If this is indeed not a closed session item, how do I handle voting on the closed session? I agreed with two out of three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted February 17, 2012 at 01:29 AM Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 at 01:29 AM Our Village Board had three items to discuss in closed session. Two related to bargaining issues, and one was an issue with direction on a contract. I felt the contract issue was not a negotiation, as much as a clarification on direction. I stated this to the Village president, but was ignored.Q1- Is there a formal way to force the issue from closed session to open.Q2-If this is indeed not a closed session item, how do I handle voting on the closed session? I agreed with two out of three.As far as RONR is concerned, there are no items that are required to be considered in closed session (aka "executive session"), nor are there any items that are prohibited from being considered in closed session. In other words, it makes no difference whether the meeting is closed or not.In any event, going into or coming out of executive session requires only a majority vote (though it's often accomplished by unanimous consent).Of course your rules may, and probably do, vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted February 17, 2012 at 01:37 AM Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 at 01:37 AM As far as RONR is concerned, there are no items that are required to be considered in closed session (aka "executive session") . . .Unfortunately, that's not accurate. Trials and considerations leading up to trial must be conducted in executive session Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted February 17, 2012 at 02:09 AM Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 at 02:09 AM Oh, great. Two Guest_Edgars now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted February 17, 2012 at 02:42 AM Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 at 02:42 AM Oh, great. Two Guest_Edgars now!!Same ol' Edgar, longing for the day when he can pass the baton back to his alter ego.6Nbfy6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted February 17, 2012 at 02:48 AM Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 at 02:48 AM 860 posts to go and counting. Won't be long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted February 17, 2012 at 02:49 AM Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 at 02:49 AM As for agreeing with two out of three items: In Executive Session, each item should be dealt with through its own motion, thus you should be able to vote on each item as you feel it (or abstain if necessary.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted February 17, 2012 at 01:31 PM Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 at 01:31 PM As for agreeing with two out of three items: In Executive Session, each item should be dealt with through its own motion, thus you should be able to vote on each item as you feel it (or abstain if necessary.)I think the original poster just meant he agreed with going into executive session to deal with two of the items, but didn't agree with going into executive session to deal with the third one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 17, 2012 at 02:49 PM Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 at 02:49 PM Trina, that's it exactly. I get the impression the open vs. closed session is more a GAB issue, as per ATY General guidelines for open meetings, than a RONR issue. I was just looking for a RONR way to pursue separation of the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted February 17, 2012 at 04:16 PM Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 at 04:16 PM Trina, that's it exactly. I get the impression the open vs. closed session is more a GAB issue, as per ATY General guidelines for open meetings, than a RONR issue. I was just looking for a RONR way to pursue separation of the issues.As noted (I think) a majority vote gets the assembly in or out of Executive Session (ES). It's up to them to determine which matters to handle in the secrecy afforded by ES. RONR notes that some Boards meet in ES all the time, so it's often a matter of general procedure. If a member felt that discussing the contract wasn't worthy of ES secrecy, s/he could simply make a motion to leave ES and the majority decides. That's the RONR way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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