Guest bigdodgetrain Posted February 22, 2012 at 01:49 AM Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 at 01:49 AM Our by laws state that amendments must be presented in writing in January, and voted on at the meeting in April. no where in the constitution does it state that amendments can be made before the vote in april. in February the members debated the amendment and made some minor changes. is this allowed in RR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted February 22, 2012 at 01:52 AM Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 at 01:52 AM Our by laws state that amendments must be presented in writing in January, and voted on at the meeting in April. no where in the constitution does it state that amendments can be made before the vote in april. in February the members debated the amendment and made some minor changes. is this allowed in RR?If the bylaws contain provisions for their own amendment, the bylaws can only be amended in accordance with those provisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted February 23, 2012 at 12:10 AM Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 at 12:10 AM Our by laws state that amendments must be presented in writing in January, and voted on at the meeting in April. no where in the constitution does it state that amendments can be made before the vote in april. in February the members debated the amendment and made some minor changes. is this allowed in RR?This is ultimately a question of Bylaws interpretation that your society will have to interpret for itself. See RONR, 11th ed., pgs. 588-591 for some Principles of Interpretation. The procedure your Bylaws use for their amendment is not consistent with RONR, so it's impossible to give an answer based on RONR. Under RONR, notice is provided at one meeting (or in the call) and then considered at the following meeting - there are no meetings in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carol Rogers Posted February 23, 2012 at 05:07 PM Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 at 05:07 PM What is the process for amending Constitution and Bylaws for cosmetic changes?Examples of such changes are as follows: no longer using the comma before the conjunction in a series, changing the format of the list of standing committes to be vertical instead of being listed horizontally in a sentence, and changing the format for duties of each officer to a vertical list lettered a, b, c, etc., instead of being listed in paragraph form.Must such changes be brought before the general membership, or can they be adopted by a vote of the Board of Directors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted February 23, 2012 at 05:23 PM Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 at 05:23 PM Anybody is free to make whatever copy of the Constitution and Bylaws that he wants and put that copy into any form. However, if you're talking about changing the content of the actual Constitution and Bylaws, you will need to follow the process for amending that document. If the assembly adopted a bylaw provision with a comma, you cannot remove that comma, except through the adoption of an amendment to the bylaws. The bylaws are the exact text that the assembly adopted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigdodgetrain Posted February 24, 2012 at 02:45 AM Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 at 02:45 AM this is all the by-laws state on amending;"For an amendment to be considered at the Club Meeting in January, a petition with at least 10 signatures of Regular Members must accompany the proposed amendment. Amendments to these Bylaws will be submitted to the Club Membership for vote in conjunction with the annual election at the Club Meeting in April."after this was submitted the club made chages at the february meeting.I say making changes is not permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted February 24, 2012 at 01:26 PM Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 at 01:26 PM this is all the by-laws state on amending;"For an amendment to be considered at the Club Meeting in January, a petition with at least 10 signatures of Regular Members must accompany the proposed amendment. Amendments to these Bylaws will be submitted to the Club Membership for vote in conjunction with the annual election at the Club Meeting in April."after this was submitted the club made chages at the february meeting.I say making changes is not permitted.Not only do you have to determine if making changes at the February meeting was permissible under your bylaws, you have to determine if making changes is permitted at all under your bylaws, since the amendment is to be 'submitted for vote' in April. And, maybe changes were permissible at the January meeting, since there is talk about the amendment being 'considered' at the January meeting where the petition has to be presented.In short, see Mr. Martin's earlier comments:This is ultimately a question of Bylaws interpretation that your society will have to interpret for itself. See RONR, 11th ed., pgs. 588-591 for some Principles of Interpretation. The procedure your Bylaws use for their amendment is not consistent with RONR, so it's impossible to give an answer based on RONR. Under RONR, notice is provided at one meeting (or in the call) and then considered at the following meeting - there are no meetings in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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