Guest emy Posted June 4, 2012 at 05:27 PM Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 at 05:27 PM if the chair makes a ruling what steps need to be taken to challenge the ruling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted June 4, 2012 at 05:31 PM Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 at 05:31 PM You Appeal it. See RONR pp. 255-260 for details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted June 4, 2012 at 06:09 PM Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 at 06:09 PM It takes someone to move the Appeal From the Decision of the Chair and someone to second it. The question is phrased as "Shall the decision of the chair be sustained?" and it takes a majority No vote to overrule the chair. See the pages Chris cited for the special rules of debate that pertain to this motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emy Posted June 4, 2012 at 08:30 PM Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 at 08:30 PM You Appeal it. See RONR pp. 255-260 for details.As I understand the Rules - the appeal must be made right away, at that meeting. However, the situation as we have it, the president of the organization, not the chairman of the board, is opposed to the ruling by the chairman of the meeting ( who is the chairman of the board) several weeks ago. He want s to overturn that ruling a month later. Does he have any recourse?The president is acting like a dictator. He would like to make unilateral decisions. He needs to be stopped by the board by using Robert's Rules because that is the only thing he understands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted June 4, 2012 at 09:14 PM Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 at 09:14 PM Unless a continuing breach occurred (RONR p. 251) it would be too late for the President to object to the Chair's ruling. If the President tries to do so then you should Appeal that ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted June 4, 2012 at 10:35 PM Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 at 10:35 PM Or better yet, you could discipline the President if you feel the President is overstepping his/her authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted June 5, 2012 at 12:58 AM Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 at 12:58 AM The president is acting like a dictator. Robert's Rules... ...is the only thing he understands.Apparently not. What was the ruling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emy Posted June 10, 2012 at 03:07 AM Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 at 03:07 AM Apparently not. What was the ruling?a board member had been removed from the board improperly- the information that had been given to the board as to why he should be removed was incorrect. At that meeting the board voted to remove him without due process ( allowing him to defend himself ). At the next meeting the subject was brought up again and without discussing the particulars the chairman of the board stated that the removed board member is to be re-instated. It was agreed almost unanimously. the president of the organization still feels that he has the right to keep this board member off the board until he reviews all the facts and goes for another vote. Can he challenge the ruling of the chair at the next meeting to keep t his board member off the board. (the president and the chairman are two different people). It would seem to me that the president has one vote, and one vote only, as does each board member. He is trying to keep this person off the board at all costs. How can he be stopped. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted June 10, 2012 at 01:25 PM Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 at 01:25 PM a board member had been removed from the board improperly- the information that had been given to the board as to why he should be removed was incorrect. At that meeting the board voted to remove him without due process ( allowing him to defend himself ). At the next meeting the subject was brought up again and without discussing the particulars the chairman of the board stated that the removed board member is to be re-instated. It was agreed almost unanimously. the president of the organization still feels that he has the right to keep this board member off the board until he reviews all the facts and goes for another vote. Can he challenge the ruling of the chair at the next meeting to keep t his board member off the board. (the president and the chairman are two different people). It would seem to me that the president has one vote, and one vote only, as does each board member. He is trying to keep this person off the board at all costs. How can he be stopped. ?If you're saying that the board did not have the authority to remove the member in the way that it attempted, then the motion it adopted is null and void. If the director was removed, whether or not that decision was based on legitimate facts, the process for filling the vacancy will have to be followed to install another (or the same) individual in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emy Posted June 11, 2012 at 12:36 AM Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 at 12:36 AM If you're saying that the board did not have the authority to remove the member in the way that it attempted, then the motion it adopted is null and void.If the director was removed, whether or not that decision was based on legitimate facts, the process for filling the vacancy will have to be followed to install another (or the same) individual in that position.Getting back to the original question - can a ruling of the chair be challenged two meetings later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted June 11, 2012 at 12:44 AM Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 at 12:44 AM Getting back to the original question - can a ruling of the chair be challenged two meetings later?What you've described is not exactly a "ruling of the chair". It sounds more like the chair made a motion (if only implicitly) to reinstate the board member and the board agreed unanimously (or nearly so). Assuming the board had the authority to first remove and then reinstate one of its members (which sounds doubtful to me), there's no ruling to appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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