kerri Posted October 17, 2012 at 12:10 AM Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 12:10 AM I have read the Roberts rules and sort of have an idea . I really need to read Roberts rules for Dummies...my question was not answered Im wandering if someone may be able to help me? I will try to sum up as quick as I can.I have a board at work my Assc. consists of 2 parts of employees and I have my own boss. The board members hired a woman to fill a position that is not do do with my job it would be her own job. After a few weeks of working all of a sudden this woman was "hired" by the board to be the "office administrator" and started to have say in the entire office's jobs. As mentioned I have my own boss. Now this women dictates to the board who,,what ,,when and they hang onto her every word. She is a very difficult individidual to talk to she always quotes "talk to your boss" or "the board will discuss this" but what she says goes. This woman sits in on every board meeting and HAS SAY in my job now and ALL the office stuff,,AND she had her own job to do. Everyone walks around like egg shells are on the floor. When WE the members/employees want to talk to a board member we have to request in writing and our suggestions and requests go unheard because the board discusses with this "administrator". THis is a very hard question to ask in a forum,,,if ANYONE can help me or can understand what I am asking can you please email me?? kerri-lynn66@hotmail.comThanks kindly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted October 17, 2012 at 12:57 AM Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 12:57 AM This person only has the authority that the bylaws or validly adopted rule gives her. If she tries pulling a power play when she ain't got the power don't let her get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerri Posted October 17, 2012 at 01:59 AM Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 01:59 AM This person only has the authority that the bylaws or validly adopted rule gives her. If she tries pulling a power play when she ain't got the power don't let her get away with it.But how do we go about this? the Board for some reason are hanging on her every word. Dont the Roberts rules allow ONLY board members to "dictate" or be present at their monthly meeting? What does an administrator do? Do you have any suggestions as I mentioned Ive been trying to understand the Roberts rules but having a hard time. It is VERYscary the power this woman has,, or they have given her. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR Posted October 17, 2012 at 02:47 AM Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 02:47 AM Do the members/employees elect board members? Does this board answer to the members/employees, or does it have exclusive power according to your bylaws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerri Posted October 17, 2012 at 02:55 AM Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 02:55 AM Do the members/employees elect board members? Does this board answer to the members/employees, or does it have exclusive power according to your bylaws?We elected the board members ,,,it was "mickey mouse " we barely had any people there and less to choose from so the previous president was voted back in,,she is the board member who hired this "administrator" but actually this person was 1st hired under an employee position in which she is doing also. This person walks around like she the 1 and only and "my boss" is very worried about her and does not stand up for us because the board backlashes on her. Would our by laws be public knowledge? Can anyone get them? I NEED HELP!!! Im in Vancouver if anyone is also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR Posted October 17, 2012 at 03:05 AM Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 03:05 AM If you are a voting member of this organization, then you have a right to see the bylaws. Depending on what they say, it's possible the members/employees could meet and send a directive to the board to exclude this administrator from their meetings. But it seems likely she will exert her influence one way or another, in which case your only remedy is to elect different board members next time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerri Posted October 17, 2012 at 03:13 AM Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 03:13 AM If you are a voting member of this organization, then you have a right to see the bylaws. Depending on what they say, it's possible the members/employees could meet and send a directive to the board to exclude this administrator from their meetings. But it seems likely she will exert her influence one way or another, in which case your only remedy is to elect different board members next time around.Thank you so much John R. You know our anual general meeting was 3.5 months late last year and our 2012 anual general meeting is due in a month and 1/2. Stuff to think about. Thank you!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMargaret Posted October 17, 2012 at 02:16 PM Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 02:16 PM First, find your bylaws.Then, check for two major things:* what is the power that the general members have - are you supposed to meet on a regular basis? Who calls these meetings? By default, a board answers to general members - is that the case in your association?* what do bylaws say about employees? Do the general members have any power over the employees? Some organizations will create an executive director, so the board employees one person only, and that director has employees. Depends on what your bylaws say. Note: Your board may not have a good handle on labour law, and there are a number of provincial organizations that can assist with employee rights (hi from another part of BC!). The actual law takes priority over your bylaws or RONR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted October 17, 2012 at 02:56 PM Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 02:56 PM I'm in Vancouver if anyone is also.(hi from another part of BC!).So, not the fourth largest city in the State of Washington, USA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerri Posted October 17, 2012 at 03:34 PM Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 03:34 PM First, find your bylaws.Then, check for two major things:* what is the power that the general members have - are you supposed to meet on a regular basis? Who calls these meetings? By default, a board answers to general members - is that the case in your association?* what do bylaws say about employees? Do the general members have any power over the employees? Some organizations will create an executive director, so the board employees one person only, and that director has employees. Depends on what your bylaws say.Note: Your board may not have a good handle on labour law, and there are a number of provincial organizations that can assist with employee rights (hi from another part of BC!). The actual law takes priority over your bylaws or RONR.Thank you all so much ,, have been a great help. I will get the by laws today and go over them. sMargaret can you pass on to me an organization (provincial) that I may be able to get help from ,, ive tried looking and Im getting no where. Any suggestions? Thanks so much again!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMargaret Posted October 17, 2012 at 03:53 PM Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 03:53 PM So, not the fourth largest city in the State of Washington, USA?That Vancouver would tend to be qualified - Vancouver, WA, for example. The "real" Vancouver tends not to be qualified - something about 2.3 million people in the metropolitan area vs. 160,000 in the Washington State Vancouver. Admittedly, it was an assumption, but an educated assumption. Kerri, I suggest that you google for BC employee rights, but you're going to have to educate yourself on what your bylaws state first. A lot of this is going to depend on who the employer is, and their relationship with their employee or employees, not employee-employee relationships - RONR cannot help you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR Posted October 17, 2012 at 05:24 PM Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 05:24 PM The "real" Vancouver tends not to be qualified - something about 2.3 million people in the metropolitan area vs. 160,000 in the Washington State Vancouver.Ah, but Vancouver, Washington, was incorporated 29 years before its Canadian laggard. Antiquitatem vs. populum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMargaret Posted October 17, 2012 at 06:42 PM Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 at 06:42 PM Antiquitatem vs. populum.Oooh - them's fightin' words... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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