Guest Jeremy Posted November 19, 2012 at 07:20 PM Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 at 07:20 PM Hello, I asked a question a few days ago regarding Special meetings, and was told (from what I gathered from the very knowledgeable and lengthy responses I received that what is proposed in the petition to hold a special meeting is the only thing that can be placed on the Agenda and discussed. My question this time is that, If a motion to DENY a request was brought from a committee, then the motion to DENY the request failed when voted on by the whole organization, can this motion be brought back up in the special meeting if it had been previously been brought up in a previous meeting, yet is not specifically listed in the petition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted November 19, 2012 at 07:28 PM Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 at 07:28 PM No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted November 19, 2012 at 07:42 PM Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 at 07:42 PM I asked a question a few days ago regarding Special meetings, and was told . . . that what is proposed in the petition to hold a special meeting is the only thing that can be placed on the Agenda and discussed.Well, not exactly. It's not the contents of any petition requesting a special meeting that limits the business that can be conducted, it's the contents of the notice (or "call") of the special meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Posted November 19, 2012 at 07:46 PM Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 at 07:46 PM The Call said that It was to address Pending Recommendations and Any Unfinished Business.... which I do not believe is specific at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Posted November 19, 2012 at 07:46 PM Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 at 07:46 PM The Call said that It was to address Pending Recommendations and Any Unfinished Business.... which I do not believe is specific at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted November 20, 2012 at 01:56 AM Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 at 01:56 AM The Call said that It was to address Pending Recommendations and Any Unfinished Business.... which I do not believe is specific at all!No, that's not nearly specific enough, unless every member knew what the pending recommendations were, and what the unfinished business was, which seems unlikely. My question this time is that, If a motion to DENY a request was brought from a committee, then the motion to DENY the request failed when voted on by the whole organization, can this motion be brought back up in the special meeting if it had been previously been brought up in a previous meeting, yet is not specifically listed in the petition.Motions to DENY a request (and any other motions phrased in the negative) are not in order, because passing it and rejecting it have the same effect as doing nothing. If the motion passes, the request is not approved. But if it does not pass, the request is still unapproved.If a committee wants to recommend denying a request, it should recommend a No vote on the motion to approve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted November 20, 2012 at 02:34 AM Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 at 02:34 AM If a committee wants to recommend denying a request, it should recommend a No vote on the motion to approve it.What motion to approve? (Does that sound too much like one of Shmuel's rhetorical questions?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted November 20, 2012 at 03:32 PM Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 at 03:32 PM What motion to approve?Umm, the one that would have to be made before anyone can vote No on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted November 20, 2012 at 05:10 PM Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 at 05:10 PM Umm, the one that would have to be made before anyone can vote No on it.How about recommending that no such motion be made, other than recommending it be made so that it can be lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted November 20, 2012 at 07:00 PM Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 at 07:00 PM How about recommending that no such motion be made, other than recommending it be made so that it can be lost? Well, that would work as far as not granting it, but I was opining on how a committee could recommend affirmatively denying it. That might be more desirable if the requesting party was observed hanging around waiting for some sort of decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted November 20, 2012 at 09:44 PM Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 at 09:44 PM Well, that would work as far as not granting it, but I was opining on how a committee could recommend affirmatively denying it. That might be more desirable if the requesting party was observed hanging around waiting for some sort of decision.The most efficient way to be done with a request that requires approval is for no one to make a motion to approve it. The second most efficient way is for no one to second such a motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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