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Guest Hugo Q

Someone has proposed to ammend section in our bylaws by changing several lines in that section.

Do we vote on the section as a whole or do we do it by line?

The reason is I agree with some of the changes of the section, but not all.

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The rules for amending bylaws are pretty much the same as the rules for amending any other document ("something," as the parliamentarians call it, in their obscure jargon) previously adopted. So it depends on how this member frames his proposal. If he submits every individual proposed change in its own motion, then clearly, each individual change ("by line," in the colloquial parlance) is considered separately. On the other hand ...

Oh. You're obviously asking about the other hand. Erg smpf.

So ... If the entire bunch of proposed changes is submitted in one motino, then the motion is voted on once, in its entirety (unless the assembly, during consideration, has divided the question -- in which case, each of the separated parts is voted on, on its own). But during consideratoin, any or all of the proposed changes can itself (or themselves -- this *grammar* stuff gets tedious!) be modified by amending.

I think there's more, but it's 4 AM, and my computer's candles are sputtering out.

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Someone has proposed to ammend section in our bylaws by changing several lines in that section.

Do we vote on the section as a whole or do we do it by line?

The reason is I agree with some of the changes of the section, but not all.

Thanks

You don't have to take one change just because you want another. Even if the changes are offered together in the form of a substitute for the entire section, that substitute is debatable and amendable. So, when the bylaw amendment is pending, just make an amendment to adjust the wording as you prefer it.

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Our bylaws state that proposed changes must be sent to all board members 30 days in advance which was done so.

So I could propose an amendment to the proposed bylaw changes? (It was made all in one motion) The board meeting is this weekend.

(unless the assembly, during consideration, has divided the question -- in which case, each of the separated parts is voted on, on its own). But during consideratoin, any or all of the proposed changes can itself (or themselves -- this *grammar* stuff gets tedious!) be modified by amending.

How could we "divide" the question? What would be the motion?

If I were to let the proposed amendment stand as it is right now and the motion to adopt fails the 3/4 vote. Is there a way to propose parts of the amendment during the same meeting. Or do we have to wait till the next board meeting when we give another 30 day notice?

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Our bylaws state that proposed changes must be sent to all board members 30 days in advance which was done so.

So I could propose an amendment to the proposed bylaw changes? (It was made all in one motion) The board meeting is this weekend.

When the amendment is being considered, it is amendable. You wouldn't be proposing an amendment to the bylaws, you would be proposing an amendment to the pending motion, and that amendment will require a majority vote for adoption. As long as your amendment stays within the scope of the notice, you'll be fine.

If the proposed bylaw amendment contains Part A and Part B, for example, you can move to strike Part B.

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Our bylaws state that proposed changes must be sent to all board members 30 days in advance which was done so.

Does your board have the authority to actually amend the bylaws or are the proposed changes only being submitted for review? Does your board have the authority to reject the proposed changes?

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This is how they sent the email all in one motion. I disagree extending the boards term to 4 years. It is currently 2 years. But I do agree with the ex-officio members. All the changes are bolded and underlined

B-10-Section1:

Membership of the Board of Directors shall include two members from each designated geographic area of who shall be elected by and from the representatives of their regions to serve staggered terms for a period of four consecutive years. Each region will elect one board of director member every two years during the state leadership conference beginning with the 2013 State Conference. Other members include the board of director’s president, president-elect, current secondary state president, secondary state vice president, and postsecondary/collegiate vice president. Ex-officio members include the Texas Director Representative, Curriculum Specialist, board past president, state officer coordinator, executive director, and the financial resource person. If a representative from Texas serves on either the National CE Program or HOSA Inc. Board, he/she will serve as ex-officio member on the HOSA,TA Board of Directors.

Section 2

Members may serve a maximum of four consecutive years. Elected board members must be a registered of an active chapter which is currently affiliated with national organization and has been affiliated for a minimum of three years.

Does your board have the authority to actually amend the bylaws or are the proposed changes only being submitted for review? Does your board have the authority to reject the proposed changes?

Yes our board does have the authority to amend bylaws for the whole organization.

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Guest Hugo Q

So is it possible to divide the question and how so?

I tried to become a member but the link to activate my account gave me an error

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So is it possible to divide the question and how so?

You should read the section on dividing that Dr Stackpole recommends, because when I summarise I usually leave out something essential, but essentially, you would move that the sentence about ex-officio members be considered as a separate question.

The advantage of that (in my opinion, and probably not only mine) is to clarify and simplify the debate on the proposal, so that you aren't discussing both issues at the same time.

But dividing the question is not absolutely necessary. Assuming that you have the numbers on your side, regrettably-still-a-"Guest" Hugo Q, you get the stuff about four-year-terms stricken (by amendment, a subsidiary motion, as Mr Wynn described in Post 6), and then, with the proposed bylaws amendment, as perfected, meeting your (that is, you voters') approval, you adopt it.

I tried to become a member but the link to activate my account gave me an error

We're so busy fixing the stinking Capcha code.

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Guest Hugo Q

Thank you!

This is what I get as an error

Fatal error: Call to undefined method converters::custom_649043() in /home/robertsr/public_html/admin/sources/loginauth/convert/newauth.php on line 55

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This is what I get as an error

Fatal error: Call to undefined method converters::custom_649043() in /home/robertsr/public_html/admin/sources/loginauth/convert/newauth.php on line 55

That error returns whether you have incorrectly entered your login ID or password, or both. Keep trying, and watch for capitalization and typos.

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