Guest Carri Posted February 19, 2013 at 04:03 AM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 04:03 AM What happens if a board member has threatened two other members to vote his way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted February 19, 2013 at 04:18 AM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 04:18 AM See FAQ #20 and/or call the cops. Or if he is a paper tiger just laugh at him (in conjunction with either or both of the original options). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted February 19, 2013 at 05:02 AM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 05:02 AM What happens if a board member has threatened two other members to vote his way?It is a threat of a physical nature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carri Posted February 19, 2013 at 05:16 AM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 05:16 AM No. He actually works for the city we live in, we are a soccer league, the city writes the agreements allowing these two board members to have access (their soccer clubs) to city owned soccer fields. The threat has been made if they do not vote his way, they will not get agreements with the city....ex. He made them vote,for our replacement chairperson, who is ineffective but she does as our city,guy says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted February 19, 2013 at 06:11 AM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 06:11 AM No. He actually works for the city we live in, we are a soccer league, the city writes the agreements allowing these two board members to have access (their soccer clubs) to city owned soccer fields. The threat has been made if they do not vote his way, they will not get agreements with the city....ex. He made them vote,for our replacement chairperson, who is ineffective but she does as our city,guy says.He would be free to say that, even in debate. This does not violate any rule in RONR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary c Tesser Posted February 19, 2013 at 10:18 PM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 10:18 PM This does not violate any rule in RONR.That's why guns and alien nostril probes and crocodiles are legal, even if the liberals later take away all our guns and alien nostril probes.[References for inhabitants of the USA, and not practicing law without a license] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthib Posted February 19, 2013 at 11:44 PM Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 at 11:44 PM Nothing in RONR prevents someone from bringing up facts as they understand them.From a city standpoint, I am sure that the city council and local paper would be interested to know that an employee is using his position to get his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted February 21, 2013 at 12:25 AM Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 at 12:25 AM He would be free to say that, even in debate. This does not violate any rule in RONR.He's free to say it, but I think the society would also be well within its rights to discipline him for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted February 21, 2013 at 12:40 AM Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 at 12:40 AM He's free to say it, but I think the society would also be well within its rights to discipline him for it.Or for saying, "Good evening," assuming he is under the control of the society. I would not this even a violation of decorum in debate. I think he is free to discuss the consequences of adopting a motion or electing an individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted February 21, 2013 at 12:47 AM Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 at 12:47 AM Or for saying, "Good evening," assuming he is under the control of the society. I would not this even a violation of decorum in debate. I think he is free to discuss the consequences of adopting a motion or electing an individual.I agree that it's not a violation of decorum, but (unless I'm missing something), it seems a little more serious than "discussing the consequences." The implication seems to be that he has told members that if they do not vote with him, he will use his position with the city to take actions damaging to the society (limiting access to city soccer fields). Perhaps it's not indecorous, but it also doesn't sound like the kind of behavior you'd want from a board member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted February 21, 2013 at 07:12 AM Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 at 07:12 AM That's why guns and alien nostril probes and crocodiles are legal, even if the liberals later take away all our guns and alien nostril probes.[References for inhabitants of the USA, and not practicing law without a license]What? They're taking away your alien nostril probes? Inconceivable!Crazy [American] liberals...(As you may or may not be aware, Canadian liberals are far less prone to such fits of insanity.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursula Posted February 22, 2013 at 09:32 PM Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 at 09:32 PM A (possibly) more serious version of the threat: can a Board member threaten a Chair (outside the meeting) with "trouble" if the member doen't get his way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted February 22, 2013 at 09:49 PM Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 at 09:49 PM . . . can a Board member threaten a Chair (outside the meeting) with "trouble" if the member doesn't get his way?Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted February 22, 2013 at 10:36 PM Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 at 10:36 PM I agree that it's not a violation of decorum, but (unless I'm missing something), it seems a little more serious than "discussing the consequences." The implication seems to be that he has told members that if they do not vote with him, he will use his position with the city to take actions damaging to the society (limiting access to city soccer fields). Perhaps it's not indecorous, but it also doesn't sound like the kind of behavior you'd want from a board member.But, it is not outside of the rules.If a member, who donates a lot of money to society, says in debate, "If you adopt the motion, I will never contribute another penny, other than my dues, to this group again," that might not be something you'd like. It does not violate any rule to say, or do, that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carri Posted February 24, 2013 at 01:26 AM Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 at 01:26 AM How sad really.So nothing gets accomplished in a fair manner because the votes are done out of fear.Makes zero sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted February 24, 2013 at 01:32 AM Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 at 01:32 AM But, it is not outside of the rules.If a member, who donates a lot of money to society, says in debate, "If you adopt the motion, I will never contribute another penny, other than my dues, to this group again," that might not be something you'd like. It does not violate any rule to say, or do, that.Depending on the circumstances, might it be questionable whether the member's threats are germane to the pending question?\How sad really.So nothing gets accomplished in a fair manner because the votes are done out of fear.Makes zero sense.If you don't think this sort of behavior is appropriate for a board member, see FAQ #20 for information on how to remove him from the board.I also concur with Robert that the individual's employers at the city might be interested in this behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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